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Was I assaulted?

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 06:38 am
@jespah,
I suspect this may be one of Nonono's many sockpuppets. If, however, the OP is genuine he needs to ask himself this question. Is he happy that this took place, or does he feel used and violated. If the answer is the latter he needs to leave the relationship and possibly take legal action, that is if he does not find the process too intimidating.
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Germlat
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 06:40 am
@OmSigDAVID,
This was yet another fake post within the flurry of threads concerning rape, misandry, and feminism.... What I took from it is how many followers there are out there. Poorly constructed argument followed by flawed logic...and poorly reasoned responses. The guy was yelling in distress but still got an erection? People don't seem to understand basic concepts of anatomy & physiology. With female for instance, during a rape assessment , the vagina is inspected for tears, lacerations and abrasions. The reasons these abrasions occur is due to a lack of lubrication since the female was not aroused!
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 06:49 am
@Germlat,
Be that as it may, and I do share your suspicions about the OP, the fact is, there are documented cases from the former Yugoslav war of men being forced to rape at gunpoint and being able to maintain an erection.
Germlat
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 06:57 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Be that as it may, and I do share your suspicions about the OP, the fact is, there are documented cases from the former Yugoslav war of men being forced to rape at gunpoint and being able to maintain an erection.

I could manage a more credible scenario than the OP : a guy had been drinking and went to bed. A female waited until he was out. She went in a fondled him, he had and erection and woke up to a female straddling him.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 07:06 am
@Germlat,
Agreed, but we don't know with 100% certainty that it isn't genuine.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 07:20 am
I don't see any reason to doubt the OP. It's possible to be turgid and not intellectually agreeing to sex. So technically speaking, what is described is rape. And yet... I don't know how to say this without unleashing all the furies of A2K, but i wonder if she didn't do him a favour by breaking his resistance.

Germlat
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 07:22 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Be that as it may, and I do share your suspicions about the OP, the fact is, there are documented cases from the former Yugoslav war of men being forced to rape at gunpoint and being able to maintain an erection.

Interesting choice of words, "men forced to rape". The female was the recipient of rape. How many prosecuted cases of females raping men are there out there? And if so under what circumstances? I once read of a case of a female tying up a guy and then using a tool to rape him anally. The incidence of male rape is very high in prison, even if the men aren't homosexual(situational homosexuality). The cases of sexual abuse towards animals are generally perpetrated by men. How many whorehouses are women visiting to pay for sex with a male? Who are the main consumers of porn? It is a fact that males remain the sexual aggressors...don't blame me, blame biology.
Germlat
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 07:35 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

I don't see any reason to doubt the OP. It's possible to be turgid and not intellectually agreeing to sex. So technically speaking, what is described is rape. And yet... I don't know how to say this without unleashing all the furies of A2K, but i wonder if she didn't do him a favour by breaking his resistance.



You clearly don't understand endocrine/autonomic responses....nor the chemicals released by the brain and the effect they have on function. Here's an experiment for you: start yelling and continue to do so while attempting to manage an erection.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 08:00 am
@Germlat,
So you're saying the 14 year old boy forced at gunpoint to rape his own mother did so willingly.

Your argument is very similar to that which says that if a women didn't put up a fight she can't have been raped.
Eliusa
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 08:12 am
I've never heard of a guy being not ready for a physical relationships with a girlfriend he is attracted to.
Is he a gay and not aware yet? Crying for being assaulted by a woman? A man??? WTF?
Eliusa
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 08:13 am
@Olivier5,
A favor indeed!!!
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Eliusa
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 08:16 am
@Germlat,
Is I true for men as well that if they don't want to have sex they can't have hard on?
I really do not now much do I? (talking to myself)
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Germlat
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 08:20 am
@izzythepush,
I'm saying that if you're yelling in fear/distress it's impossible to maintain an erection. An erection is NOT necessary for rape to take place. Maybe the boy was forced to rape his mother , but you can't ascertain he had an erection. As I've explained in my previous posts I believe it's possible for a female to rape. However, given what the OP stated I think it's a bogus post. According to surviverape.org, 99% percent of female rape survivors are raped by a male.
Germlat
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 08:25 am
@Eliusa,
Eliusa wrote:

I've never heard of a guy being not ready for a physical relationships with a girlfriend he is attracted to.
Is he a gay and not aware yet? Crying for being assaulted by a woman? A man??? WTF?

I think this thread is more of an exercise in reasoning. I thought the last one with the ambiguous situation between the girl and her boyfriend was more challenging.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 08:27 am
@Germlat,
Quote:
Here's an experiment for you: start yelling and continue to do so while attempting to manage an erection.

I don't manage my erections, they manage me... Smile

I understand what you are saying, G. And yet I can see a scenario like in the OP happening. All it takes is a boy who is not INTELLECTUALLY ready for it, who finds it gross, disgusting or scary to stick his member inside that hairy hole, while HIS BODY is totally ready for it...

Two days ago at our dinner table:

Wife: Your boy is going to have sexual education at school.
Son: MOM! PLEASE!
Me: What? They start earlier and earlier. For me it was in 6th grade... [turning to Son] But it's embarrassing for parents to talk about that to their children, so why not? I mean, I could explain stuff to you, Son, but...
Son: PLEASE NO!
Wife: He finds it disgusting...
Son: It IS disgusting!
Me: Really? Naaaa... (starting to giggle) It's an aquired taste. You'll see... Appetite comes while eating.
Son [looking straight into my eyes and almost shouting]: NO DAD! IT IS TOTALLY DISGUSTING!
Me: Oh well... Eat you string beans...
Eliusa
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 08:28 am
@Germlat,
Yeah, I would probably laugh my ass off seeing my BF crying after me 'assaulting' him like that. And I would walk laughing leaving him to deal with his own mental issues.
Eliusa
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 08:30 am
@Olivier5,
I don't manage my erections, they manage me

Sexy beast...
Germlat
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 08:38 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Quote:
Here's an experiment for you: start yelling and continue to do so while attempting to manage an erection.

I don't manage my erections, they manage me... Smile

I understand what you are saying, G. And yet I can see a scenario like in the OP happening. All it takes is a boy who is not INTELLECTUALLY ready for it, who finds it gross, disgusting or scary to stick his member inside that hairy hole, while HIS BODY is totally ready for it...

Two days ago at our dinner table:

Wife: Your boy is going to have sexual education at school.
Son: MOM! PLEASE!

Me: What? They start earlier and earlier. For me it was in 6th grade... [turning to Son] But it's embarrassing for parents to talk about that to their children, so why not? I mean, I could explain stuff to you, Son, but...
Son: PLEASE NO!
Wife: He finds it disgusting...
Son: It IS disgusting!
Me: Really? Naaaa... (starting to giggle) It's an aquired taste. You'll see... Appetite comes while eating.
Son [looking straight into my eyes and almost shouting]: NO DAD! IT IS TOTALLY DISGUSTING!
Me: Oh well... Eat you string beans...

Hairy??!! Oh no...it's not the eighties anymore!
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 08:48 am
@Germlat,
I live in the real world, where 'pussies' derive their name from their mane. ;-)
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 8 Nov, 2014 08:52 am
@Germlat,
Germlat wrote:

I'm saying that if you're yelling in fear/distress it's impossible to maintain an erection.


For someone who doesn't have a penis you sure are an expert on them. (Don't take that the wrong way.) If you follow the link I gave to rape in the Yugoslav conflicts you'll see that's not true.

Any man will tell you it's not true.

The worst thing is, you suspect this is a bait thread, but you've still given the misogynists everything they want. They can cut and paste your responses as evidence that feminism isn't about equality it's about using double standards when dealing with abused men.

Well done you.
 

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