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Potty-Mouthed Princesses Drop F-Bombs for Feminism by FCKH8.com

 
 
hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 11 Mar, 2015 05:45 pm
@maxdancona,
I' m not making an argument, I'm interpreting the evidence. Race is such a nebulous concept that I can't even consider your question without specifics. My gut says the evidence for race based moral superiority would be nowhere near as incontrovertible as it would seem for gender.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Wed 11 Mar, 2015 05:49 pm
@ossobuco,
Enjoy the show. Play once in a while. What else is there to do?
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Wed 11 Mar, 2015 06:01 pm
@ossobuco,
That's really good.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 11 Mar, 2015 06:02 pm
@Olivier5,
Agree on your first paragraph.

Not getting that you can't joke or imply or play with high heel stuff as sexual figures. I'd include tripping on cobblestones, to add comedy or pathos to scenarios.

Er, ex wrote a tackycity screenplay (money for writing) that actually got shot as a film and has some cult value. A dominatrix situation was in there in the storyline. I remember it as comedic, but don't trust me.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 11 Mar, 2015 06:36 pm
@hingehead,


Far across the ocean
In the land of look and see
There once was a time
For you and me

Where the winds blow sweetly
And the easy seas flow still
And where the barefoot dream of life
Can laugh and cry its fill

Where slot machine confusions
And the plastic universe
Are objects of amusement
In the fiction of their curse

And where the crazy whiteman
And his teargas happiness
Lies dead and long since buried
By his own fantastic mess

For I hate the whiteman
And his plastic excuse
For I hate the whiteman
And the man who turned him loose...

And the reins of coloured thunder
Of the stallion of the dawn
Ride the coalfire morning
On the beach where all is born

Where the emperor of meaning
Is burning up his forts
And sits to warm his toes around
A fire made up of useless thoughts

And when the children tempt him
With the riddles of their trance
He flings the flames of solstice
Casting laughs into their dance

And while a crazy whiteman
In the desert of his bones
Lies as bleached as the paradise
He likes to think he owns

And I hate the whiteman
In his evergreen excuse
Oh I hate the whiteman
And the man who turned him loose...

And far across the reaches
Of the drifting yellow sands
The living carpet wilderness
Forever joins its hands

With heaven hell's attainment
In a surging crest of fire
Where more than all is thrown upon
The ever lasting pyre

And through the countless canticles
Of Jason's charcoal fleece
Are sung the songs of nothing
In the timeless masterpiece

And there stood in the middle
Guess who?
It's the everlasting burst
Built by god's very own whiteman
As he tries to rule the dust

And I hate the whiteman
In his doctrinaire abuse
Oh I hate the whiteman
And the man who turned you all loose...

And the bowels of his city
Have been locked into a safe
Where the spew stains on the sidewalks
Are defenders of his faith

While back inside his kitchen
The bowler hatted, long haired saint
Cleans with soap and water
But it's really just white paint

While his golden headed scandal sheets
Present their daily bite
To give their righteous news-bleeders
Drugs to keep them white

While outside in the whitewash
Where the guns are always, always right
A shooting star has summoned
Its dark angel from his night


And I hate the whiteman
And his evergreen excuse
Oh I hate the whiteman
And the man who turned you all loose
And the man who turned him loose...
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 11 Mar, 2015 07:07 pm
@ossobuco,
I'll add, Gordon Liddy was an actor in it.

Miss Priss declined to be introduced.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2015 06:01 am
@ossobuco,
The high heel thing was in semi-jest. It's a meme in this discussion, with 'bad feminist' Roxanne Gay and others using heels as an example of something which they enjoy wearing even though in feminist theory they think they shouldn't. Just one of these contradictions I was talking about.

Of course you can point out that they are not terribly adapted to cobblestones. That's not what they are meant for either.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2015 11:28 am
@ossobuco,

What do you make of it? I tend to agree with him. Her second degree looks like an excuse to stay away rather than a real need.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2015 11:38 am
@hingehead,
Quote:
the evidence for race based moral superiority would be nowhere near as incontrovertible as it would seem for gender.

There is no such evidence, in neither case. Women are just as morally corrupt as men, on average.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2015 12:04 pm
@Olivier5,
I know they have many uses, including increasing one's sexiness status. Possibly used for stabbing a thief. Tiptoeing through tulips. Making one taller is one of the reasons a lot of women wear them, whether or not they are very short to start with. And some who are with a short guy avoid them.

ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2015 12:20 pm
@Olivier5,
I'm mixed. I see her side re her career, and not wanting to be told no, she can't go there right now. I didn't know, though, his positive view about her getting a law degree in Virginia until later in the article. I see his side on that too, re that where he was working was the best possible place for his career, a career that is a relatively rare one in the U.S., which he had moved to to be with her. On the other hand, I've no idea if all good law schools teach historic restoration law. Maybe University of Virginia does teach that, it would be fitting there.

And I see that their differing personalities from their different upbringing will, if they get back together, still show up long term.

I thought they were each relatively thoughtful for a separated couple.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2015 12:33 pm
@ossobuco,
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21151350

Quote:
Although Europeans were first attracted to heels because the Persian connection gave them a macho air,


http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/65495000/jpg/_65495951_louis_xiv_getty.jpg

Quote:
"In the 1630s you had women cutting their hair, adding epaulettes to their outfits," says Semmelhack.

"They would smoke pipes, they would wear hats that were very masculine. And this is why women adopted the heel - it was in an effort to masculinise their outfits."




(I love that museum)
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2015 12:42 pm
@ehBeth,
I didn't know that. Grins.

Wonder if they make guys' calves look better too..

Adds, I just read the article, nice one.
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2015 12:49 pm
"Like a candle in the wind...."


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/55/ca/19/55ca1988f75ec4e64de7a19fb7c4e0dd.jpg
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2015 02:49 pm
@ossobuco,
Quote:
Making one taller is one of the reasons a lot of women wear them, whether or not they are very short to start with

Of course, and quite a few men too. And then there's the status symbol: these are often pricey. I never found them that sexy though.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2015 02:58 pm
@ossobuco,
She was scared to settle, me think. To settle for less than what she had hope for professionally, to settle for this man, but also to settle back in her parents neighborhood ("back to square one").

He looks like he's ready for a "normal", slightly boring life, with a family, a house, a car and a stable job, but she's aiming at something different: a high-powered career. I hope she gets that so it makes her personal sacrifices worth it.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2015 03:01 pm
@Olivier5,
I wore them only in my twenties and not that often. I equated them with dressing up, the whole clothes/outfit thing, before I thought of them as sexy. On the other hand, I was a sort of slow learner, not subscribing to Cosmopolitan at the time. Plus, I've several times liked short men.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2015 03:04 pm
@Olivier5,
Agree. But I'd modify that to a career that interests her greatly, in which more education can widen your abilities.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2015 04:40 pm
@ossobuco,
Let's hope so. It's still a bet.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2015 04:44 pm
@Olivier5,
I'll agree she probably also wants power.
 

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