The 'SOUL'. What is it?

Your proposal is not credible, given your past behavior.

You don't know yourself, Frank. You are making promises that you can't keep.

In regard to experience, the lack thereof is, nonetheless, categorically "experience" especially when it's the basis of the statement, "I do not believe in gods."

InfraBlue wrote:

In regard to experience, the lack thereof is, nonetheless, categorically "experience" especially when it's the basis of the statement, "I do not believe in gods."

And, pray tell, how does it make the statement anything other than a blind guess.

How does a lack of experience...lead to a blind guess being something other than a blind guess?

You can call a blind guess "absolute certainty"...but that does not make it something other than a blind guess.

Whether a person calls his/her blind guess about the unknown a "belief"...or if the person has the ethical sense to call it a "blind guess"...

...the blind guess is still a blind guess.

In any case, why not explain how "a lack of experience" does anything.

If you have a "lack of experience" of any sentient beings from any planet circling the nearest five stars to Sol...

...and you decide to say, "I believe there are no sentient beings on any of those planets"...

...does that make the comment anything other than a blind guess?

C'mon, Blue. Pick up the pace. Get a bit more realistic so we can move this discussion on.

Frank Apisa wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:

In regard to experience, the lack thereof is, nonetheless, categorically "experience" especially when it's the basis of the statement, "I do not believe in gods."

And, pray tell, how does it make the statement anything other than a blind guess.

How does a lack of experience...lead to a blind guess being something other than a blind guess?

Because it's based on experiential data.

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You can call a blind guess "absolute certainty"...but that does not make it something other than a blind guess.

I don't call a blind guess "absolute certainty," and I don't know what that has to do with the issue at hand.

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Whether a person calls his/her blind guess about the unknown a "belief"...or if the person has the ethical sense to call it a "blind guess"...

...the blind guess is still a blind guess.

You're merely repeating your assertion without substantiation.

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In any case, why not explain how "a lack of experience" does anything.

It's the basis of the lack of belief in gods, among other things.

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If you have a "lack of experience" of any sentient beings from any planet circling the nearest five stars to Sol...

...and you decide to say, "I believe there are no sentient beings on any of those planets"...

...does that make the comment anything other than a blind guess?

No, because the statement is one of belief not knowledge, which is your hang up. You're confusing the two.

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C'mon, Blue. Pick up the pace. Get a bit more realistic so we can move this discussion on.

Try substantiating your assertion that beliefs about gods are blind guesses and the discussion will move merrily along.

I already answered your question here.

Let's try keeping up, M'kay?

InfraBlue wrote:

I already answered your question here.

Let's try keeping up, M'kay?

Your so-called answer has been shown to be rubbish.

Now you apparently are trying to say that because there is an absence of experience (which apparently means no gods have been seen)...that makes the blind guess something other than a blind guess.

Absolute blather...although I doubt you will suddenly work up the ethical wherewithal to acknowledge that it is.

"Done with you" only meant that this particular discussion was over. I haven't given up on you yet.

Frank Apisa wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:

I already answered your question here.

Let's try keeping up, M'kay?

Your so-called answer has been shown to be rubbish.

All you've said is, "...the blind guess is still a blind guess." All that shows is that you're talking in circles.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Now you apparently are trying to say that because there is an absence of experience (which apparently means no gods have been seen)...that makes the blind guess something other than a blind guess.

It's not just about sight. It includes all of the senses as well as sensibilities.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Absolute blather...although I doubt you will suddenly work up the ethical wherewithal to acknowledge that it is.

You don't explain why it's absolute blather.

What you don't seem to get, Frank.

Is that if there is an absence of existence, then there should be an absence of experience.

If nobody has seen X - how can people say they experience X, unless what people experiencing is what they think is X, but actually isn't X.

In other words, people are delusional and so are you.

Welcome to my lair, Frank. This is where I make you into the game. Come play with me, and let's see if your character can survive.