George Galloway Full of Crap When He Says Jews have no right to be in Palestine

Like I said earlier, Foofie, you make a better argument for what I have been trying to say than I do.

YOU, and your kind of thinking...are part of the problem for Jews.

In any case, the Arabs of that area have as much right to not want the state of Israel there...as the Jews have of wanting it there.

But you are wrong in that if you do.

You have made your point, and re-made it. It doesn't matter whether your point is anti-Semitic or not. Anti-Semitism is just part of the culture. Sort of like anti-Catholicism was once part of the culture. However, under the surface, in my opinion, there is still anti-Catholicism. And, even when everyone goes to a Seder at his/her Jewish friend's home, there will still be anti-Semitism under the surface. My point is Jewish culture is just different enough to make many people uncomfortable with Jews, so Israel as a Christmas present of sorts to all the Orthodox Jews, as a small compensation for the murderous Nazis, and the non-caring European masses, is the best that could be done after WWII.

But, as an American Catholic you might have a different perspective.

Now please end this silliness. I have my opinion, and you have yours.

P.S.: Perhaps, you should blame ancestors for kicking Jews out of Jerusalem two thousand years ago. Without that historical fact, Jews would never have left. No Ashkenazim. No Sephardim. No posts from Frank Apisa on a topic he has great insight into (sarcastically speaking, in my opinion).

Good luck in your brilliance.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Like I said earlier, Foofie, you make a better argument for what I have been trying to say than I do.

YOU, and your kind of thinking...are part of the problem for Jews.

In any case, the Arabs of that area have as much right to not want the state of Israel there...as the Jews have of wanting it there.

But you are wrong in that if you do.

you sure are presenting a lot of opinions as facts

I am not and American Catholic, and I still have a different perspective.[/b]

I'm not the sharpest one on that front myself but look at you: you just insulted repeatedly the ones among us you identify as gentiles.

The capacity to suffer others, and even to like them, and to help them once in a while, at the very least nto treat them with respect, is important. We all live on the same planet, so unless you guys want to colonize Mars, you'll have to learn to live with non-Jews. And that takes more respect than you're showing.

You've been harping on Jewish superiority over gentiles for a while now...

Frank Apisa wrote:

I am not and American Catholic, and I still have a different perspective.[/b]

But, you are not a Protestant that might have some religious value for a Zionist State. Catholicism is a religion, and a culture. You might not subscribe to Catholicism as a religion, but you appear, in my opinion, to reflect Catholicism as a culture.

It's the arrogance, in my opinion, to tell people that an existing country should be moved. So, you seem, in my opinion, to have the Catholic belief of thinking it is acceptable that Jews should not have an authentic homeland, just some land that they "purchased" somewhere. And, prior to John XXlll, that was Catholic theology (for rejecting Christ, Jews should roam the Earth, until the end of time).

If you do not consider yourself Catholic, you must be of Italian descent (based on your name). And, that gets me back to the Romans that had the superiority complex that they projected onto Jews, after they became Christians.

But, you are not a Protestant that might have some religious value for a Zionist State. Catholicism is a religion, and a culture. You might not subscribe to Catholicism as a religion, but you appear, in my opinion, to reflect Catholicism as a culture

The good part is, though, that you will have lots of almost defenseless Arabs to slaughter. [/b]

Overkill in my opinion as usual for Israel.

Frank Apisa wrote:

The good part is, though, that you will have lots of almost defenseless Arabs to slaughter. [/b]

Well, that a false accusation. I have nothing against Arabs per se. I look upon them as prototype Jews. I still carry much identical DNA.

Please stop showing off your Goyisha kup.

Which opinion would qualify for which of two, opinion or fact? Just curious.

It's certainly understandable that the Jews would hope to be restored to their anscestral homeland.

It's certainly understandable that the Jews would hope to be restored to their anscestral homeland.

The simplistic idea that "the Jews" have an ancestral homeland in Palestine is a part of Zionist ideology that's based on religious mythology. The Jewish religion began in Palestine, "the Jews" have origins in the various parts of the world where they live. The Ashkenazim, the Jews that came up with Zionism, are a European people.