@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
Foofie wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
...How about you taking a look at things with a bit more perspective, Foofie. Since Jews have not been able to get along with neighbors ANYWHERE...is it not possible they bear some of the responsibility for that inability?
Oh, you mean Jews, being a successful minority should not offend the sensitive level of self-esteem, of the lower echelon of Gentile society, by pandering to their collective ego? Yes, I guess in that case Jews are the problem, since they are the same stiff necked Hebrews that Yul Brynner in the Ten Commandments (as the Pharoh) referred to them. Yes, Jews cannot be insular, or the sensitive Gentile masses get offended. In that case, bring on the sensitive Gentile masses, so I can snub them into a teeth grinding delerium.
Love thy neighbor. Ha!
Okay...so you are saying that Jews bear no responsibility for being unable to get along with neighbors anywhere.
I see.
That may be part of the problem!
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No. I am trying to impart the thinking that Jews have every right to not be anyone's friendly neighbor. Civil neighbor, yes. Friendly neighbor, based on who the neighbor is. Notice how no one gets upset when they get snubbed by clannish WASP's, or other successful groups. But, when Jews don't pander to some neer-do-well Gentile, the Gentile might be thinking, "That Jew thinks he's better than me." No, the Jew might just be making the same decision that any other non-Jews might make. However, some Gentiles tend to think Jews are OBLIGATED to be fawning to every dummy that he/she meets. It's just not in the Jewish culture to want to be friendly to all Gentiles. Civil yes. Friendly no.
So, Frankie baby, you have made a good argument why Israel needs to exist, since if Israelis, as Jews, did not have a homeland, then it's just a matter of time when envious/hostile Gentiles will think a final solution is needed for those less than friendly Jews. In other words, the world either has to murder them, or let them live in peace in an insular manner.
And, by the way, the Jews in Moorish Spain were Sephardic. They were known to get along with Gentiles. Ashkenazim are known to avoid Gentiles of a lower socio-economic class. Really not a problem, unless one has a double standard for Jews.
And, being of Italian descent, should I feel friendly to you? Sorry, I find you just annoying in your inability to take responsibility for Catholic anti-Semitism for two-thousand years, and saying Jews need to become better at engratiating themselves to under-educated masses. If you do not condemn upper class Gentiles for being class conscious, it is only intractable anti-Semitism, in my opinion, that gives Jews a different set of criteria for living in peace.