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Death penalty for "aspostasy" in Sudan

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 10:29 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Islam just burned 50 a couple weeks ago. If you wish to go back in time it gets worse. If you want to go forward it gets worse too. The small number of blacks hung by Christians is no answer to an ongoing genocide in Africa.


Come on Christians can and have killed far more then 50 a week as they used to burn through 30,000 blacks every year in Haiti and of course only 7o years or so ago Christians killed well over a million Jews a year.

Oh let not forget the fire bombing and the nuking of Japan cities that in a night would killed a few hundred thousands Japaneses

Christians are still the best killers this planet had ever seen when they decide to be.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQUinRPW4aSJh0UNZj6CV6fCHdqmkr_JNFAZOh235d-nx7H0KSJhA

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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 11:09 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Come on Christians can and have killed far more then 50 a week as they used to burn through 30,000 blacks every year in Haiti and of course only 7o years or so ago Christians killed well over a million Jews a year.


Show me sources that say these people were Christian. Not that the nation was majority Christian. The government is not the church.

And that one million Jews a year is a ridiculous claim. What the Nazis did had nothing to do with Christianity. Exactly how many excuses do you want to make for a religion that obligates adherents to dominate by any means necessary. Terror, intimidation with threats of violence, and legal and financial means.

Look at the Koran and look at their actions. If you can't see the truth you are kidding yourself.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 11:57 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Oh let not forget the fire bombing and the nuking of Japan cities
that in a night would killed a few hundred thousands Japaneses
R u opposed to our nuking or fireboming the Japs, Bill???

I have always favored it.





David
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 04:11 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
u opposed to our nuking or fireboming the Japs, Bill???

I have always favored it.


No as the only other course would be an invasion that would had resulted in far far more deaths both to the Japanese and ourselves and perhaps my own father however that does not change the fact that our culture allow us to be far worst and better mass killed then any of group in the history of the world.

Interesting side note the planners of the invasion of the home islands calculated that there would be so many wounded that enough purple hearts was manufacture that to this very day 70 years afterward and after all the other conflicts we been in, we are still using that supply of medals.

So anyone wounded in the middle east is still receiving a medal that was to be given to soldiers invading the home islands!!!!!!!
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 04:27 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
Come on Christians can and have killed far more then 50 a week as they used to burn through 30,000 blacks every year in Haiti and of course only 7o years or so ago Christians killed well over a million Jews a year.


If that were anything other than a pile of bullshit, there would be no Jews living today. That would have used up the world's remaining supply of Jews in one or two decades.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 04:31 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Show me sources that say these people were Christian. Not that the nation was majority Christian. The government is not the church.


You are an idiot as almost everyone who took part in the holocaust was indeed a Christian as Germany was and is an overwhelming Christian nation and afterward very high levels in the Catholic Church aided Nazis members to escape.

Once more see any history book of that time.

Quote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany

A German census in May 1939, completed more than six years into the Nazi era[2] and incorporating the annexation of mostly Catholic Austria into Germany, indicates that 54% of Germans considered themselves Protestant, (including non-denominational Christians) and 40% considered themselves Catholic, with only with only 3.5% identifying as "gottgläubig" (lit. "believers in god", a non-denominational nazified outlook on god beliefs, often described as predominately based on creationist and deistic views[3]) and 1.5% non-religious. Most of this latter 5% were committed Nazis, who left the churches in response and encouragement of the Nazi Party who wanted to reduce the influence of the Christian churches in Germany.[4] Most members of the Nazi Party, however, were Christians, composed of some Lutheran Evangelical, the apostate members of Nazi inspired Positive Christianity and some of the Catholic faith traditions respectively. It must be noted by mid-1933 it was mandated no one could be employed in the Trade Unions, or in government from clerk to high office, without being a member of the Nazi Party.

The Nazi Fuehrer Adolf Hitler stated repeatedly Nazism was an ideology founded on Christianity.[5] There was some diversity of views among the Nazi leadership as to the future of religion in Germany. Anti-Church radicals included Hitler's militant atheist Deputy Martin Bormann and Minister for Propaganda Joseph Goebbels, the neo-pagan official Nazi Philosopher Alfred Rosenberg and security chief Heinrich Himmler. Some Nazis, such as Hans Kerrl, who served as Hitler's Minister for Church Affairs, believed Christianity could be Nazified into "Positive Christianity", by renouncing its Jewish origins, the Old Testament and Apostle's Creed, and holding Hitler as a new "Messiah". Hitler himself believed that in the long run, National Socialism and religion would not be able to co-exist, but was prepared temporarily to restrain some of his more radical instincts out of political considerations.


Quote:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_Nazi_Germany#.22Ratlines.22:_Helping_Nazis_to_flee

After the war, clandestine networks smuggled fugitive Axis officials out of Europe. The U.S. codenamed the activity the "Ratline". In Rome, pro-Nazi Austrian bishop, Alois Hudal, was linked to the chain, and the Croatian College offered refuge to Croatian fugitives, guided by Msgr. Krunoslav Draganovic.[395] Catholics and non-Nazi Catholic leaders were being arrested as potential sources of dissent in the new Communist regimes being formed across Eastern Europe and sought to emigrate. This migration was exploited by some Axis fugitives. Potential anti-Communist leaders were being framed by anti-Catholic regimes, as with the anti-Nazi Archbishop József Mindszenty in Hungary, the Zegota Jewish aid council in Poland, and the Croatian Archbishop of Zagreb, Aloysius Stepinac.[396][397]

Bishop Alois Hudal, the former rector of the pan-Germanic college in Rome training German priests, was secretly a member of the Nazi Party and informant for German Intelligence.[357] Gerald Steinacher wrote that Hudal enjoyed close personal relations with Pius XII for many years prior and was an influential figure in the process of escape. The Vatican Refugee Committees for Croats, Slovenes, Ukrainians and Hungarians aided former fascists and Nazi collaborators to escape those countries.[398]
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 04:35 am
@gungasnake,
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If that were anything other than a pile of bullshit, there would be no Jews living today. That would have used up the world's remaining supply of Jews in one or two decades.


So you are one of those very very sick souls who are holocaust deniers?
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 06:49 am
Quote:
Article quote: Most members of the Nazi Party, however, were Christians,

So what? Oskar Schindler was a member and went around rescuing Jews..Smile

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/schindler-grave2_zps84b04f95.jpg~original

Jews who he saved paying tribute at his grave with their modern families..
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Schindler-grave1_zps0fcf1840.jpg~original
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 07:42 am
@BillRM,
You said Christians. That does not include Nazis.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 09:33 am
@gungasnake,
Quote:
You said Christians. That does not include Nazis.


Sure they are or was by how they define themselves just as middle east terrorists are Muslims by how they define themselves and I am fairly sure the percents of Muslims who would care to rejected them as being "real" Muslims are similar to the percent of Christians who would not wish to accept Nazis as Christians.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 09:38 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Quote:
So what? Oskar Schindler was a member and went around rescuing Jews.


Sure he did and I am fairly sure that you can find Muslims even Muslims in middle east terrorists cells who when no one is watching will do their best to save Jews.

Once more Muslims have a history record that is far better then Christians in offering safe harbors to Jews.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 10:04 am
@BillRM,
Pious XII is still regarded as Hitler's pope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler's_Pope

Otto Schindler's membership of the Nazi party doesn't give Nazis a free pass. In order to advance at all in Nazi Germany you had to be a member. Otto Rahn is a prime example, an archaeologist who was particularly interested in the grail mythology he had to join the SS to get funding from Himmler. When he failed to secure the grail he was assigned to Dachau, (in 1937 mind, when it was just a concentration, not an extermination camp) he still couldn't hack it. He resigned in 1939 and either committed suicide or was murdered by the Gestapo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Rahn

http://www.panoccitania.com/images/Otto%20hoed.gif
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 10:13 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Pious XII is still regarded as Hitler's pope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler's_Pope

Otto Schindler's membership of the Nazi party doesn't give Nazis a free pass. In order to advance at all in Nazi Germany you had to be a member. Otto Rahn is a prime example, an archaeologist who was particularly interested in the grail mythology he had to join the SS to get funding from Himmler. When he failed to secure the grail he was assigned to Dachau, (in 1937 mind, when it was just a concentration, not an extermination camp) he still couldn't hack it. He resigned in 1939 and either committed suicide or was murdered by the Gestapo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Rahn

http://www.panoccitania.com/images/Otto%20hoed.gif
I believe that collectivism is pretty BAD, be it nazi, commie or Keynesian.





David
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 10:15 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Or big business orientated, a bit more subtle but every bid as pernicious, from the Micky Mouse Club to the Tea Party.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 12:56 pm
@izzythepush,
I feel guilty for my lazy failure to have actively supported the Tea Party.

If I can find the energy, maybe I can be more helpful
in the next elections.





David
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 01:16 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
I am fairly sure the percents of Muslims who would care to rejected them as being "real" Muslims


That is where you are wrong again. The Muslims that object to terror are not the real Muslims. Again read the Koran.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 01:17 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
I feel guilty for my lazy failure to have actively supported the Tea Party.

If I can find the energy, maybe I can be more helpful
in the next elections.

http://www.acidpulse.us/images/smilies/cheer.gif
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 01:22 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
If I can find the energy, maybe I can be more helpful
in the next elections.


It is already too late as they are going the same way as the know nothing party or the whig party or the federal party.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 01:37 pm
@BillRM,
About half of the American electorate is conservative.
That 's what matters. I don t believe your thesis.





David
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 01:41 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
It is already too late as they are going the same way as the know nothing party or the whig party or the federal party.


The Tea Party is virtually corruption free. Those parties were cursed just like the Democrats and Republicans and ripe with corruption. I think it will be around as long as long as less taxes, term limits, smaller government remain this countries best hope.
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