The Absurdity of Atheism

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Quehon said to me: You wrote, the Bible is an "Instruction Manual" Then I show you gruwesome deeds done in the name or by God the Lord or whatever, stated in the goddamned bible.

Jesus TRASHED all that Old Testament harshness when he said-
"Love one another, feed the hungry, house the homeless, clothe the destitute, tend the sick, visit the prisoners, look after the poor"- (Mark 12:30, John 13:34, Matt 25: 37-40)
and people quickly cottoned on-
"The covenant of Jesus is superior to the old one" (Heb 8:6)

Like I said, God had to slap godless heathens around in the past, for example the homosexuals of Sodom used to go round knocking peoples doors demanding that the men come out to be sodomised, so he blitzed the whole place, and Gomorrah too for good measure.. Smile

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@Romeo Fabulini,

From the New Testament.

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The wrath of God is a fearsome and terrifying thing. Only those who have been covered by the blood of Christ, shed for us on the cross, can be assured that God’s wrath will never fall on them. “Since we have now been justified by His blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through Him!” (Romans 5:9).

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

. . . God was planning to send Jesus to earth, so of course he had to cull out nasty people and hostile tribes to make the world a safer place;

Safe place?
The Jews, to whom he belonged, pressured Pilate to execute him!

There were many 'nasty and hostile' people in other parts of the world that were not 'culled out'. If you want reasons for driving the indigent people out of Canaan, the bible explains that. Their practice of child sacrifice was only one.

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Quehon said: "From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces" (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

Right, God had to cull out bad DNA from the gene pool to improve the human race because he's no mush-headed social worker.. Smile

In fact Jesus called the snooty priests "Offspring of vipers"..

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter, inexplicably answering Romeo with this wrote:

From the New Testament.

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The wrath of God is a fearsome and terrifying thing. Only those who have been covered by the blood of Christ, shed for us on the cross, can be assured that God’s wrath will never fall on them. “Since we have now been justified by His blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through Him!” (Romans 5:9).

The word 'we' applies to everyone who reads with discernment. 'We' have nothing to fear. 'Others', perhaps the contrary.

How's your power of discernment, CI?

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Romeo said: God was planning to send Jesus to earth, so of course he had to cull out nasty people and hostile tribes to make the world a safer place;
Neologist replied: Safe place?
The Jews, to whom he belonged, pressured Pilate to execute him!

I know, the Jews were far from perfect but at least they had a strong religious base, so God thought "Oh well, they'll have to do", and sent Jesus to them.
I mean, if he'd sent him to America he'd have quickly been scalped, and if sent to the jungle tribes he'd have quickly ended up in a cookpot.
At least he had a good 3-year run in Israel before the snooty priests put the Romans up to killing him..

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@neologist,

You're missing the whole point. That jesus 'sacrificed' his life for the sins of humans has turned into a demand that's unreasonable from the human point of view. If you don't follow what I say, I will torment (and torture) you forever! What's fair about that? He's working with fear, not love.

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Cicerone said: "The wrath of God is a fearsome and terrifying thing. Only those who have been covered by the blood of Christ, shed for us on the cross, can be assured that God’s wrath will never fall on them. “Since we have now been justified by His blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through Him!” (Romans 5:9)"

Yes, if people LIKE Jesus, they've got a fair chance of escaping God's wrath, but atheists and nonchristians have got zero chance.
If you think I'm being hard on them, the Bible is far harsher, it calls them-
"dogs, pigs. " (Matt 7:6)
"weeds" (Matt 13:38 )
"brute beasts," (2 Peter 2:12)
"heathens" (Jer 10:2)
"fools" (Psa 94:8 )
"liars" (1 John 2:22/23)
"defiled" (Titus 1:15)
"filthy" (Rev 22:11)

Judgement Day can therefore be regarded as The Final Cull, or the day when God throws out the human trash once and for all.
Like I said, he's no mush-headed soppy social worker..

"Believe in God,the demons also believe and tremble" (James 2:19)
"Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" (Philip 2:12 KJV)

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@Romeo Fabulini,

You,

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Yes, if people LIKE Jesus, they've got a fair chance of escaping God's wrath, but atheists and nonchristians have got zero chance.

"Zero chance" from what? Do you know what happens after you die? Like the billions who proceeded us to death, they are dead - GONE FOREVER!

There is no such thing as god's rath. That's all human hogwash - written by deranged humans who believed they were speaking for a god - that doesn't exist.

No human created god exists (be it all the mythical gods of Greeks or Egyptians); they are the figment of human imagination. No more, no less.

All gods (not only the christian god - created two thousand years ago) are in the imagination of men and women who wish to believe in them. That's one of the frailties of humans; they need some omnipotent god to serve - hoping that there is life after death.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

You're missing the whole point. That jesus 'sacrificed' his life for the sins of humans has turned into a demand that's unreasonable from the human point of view. If you don't follow what I say, I will torment (and torture) you forever! What's fair about that? He's working with fear, not love.

Uh! Straw man, CI.
Apparently, no matter how many times I point this out to you, you continue to believe that a loving God somehow sanctions torture. Were that true, He would certainly have warned Adam and Eve straight off. Check it out. No mention of baking, broiling, frying, or boiling.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

"Zero chance" from what? Do you know what happens after you die? Like the billions who proceeded us to death, they are dead - GONE FOREVER!

Well, you've finally got something at least partly right. The dead are dead. But, God promises that humans who have died will have a second chance. (John 5:28,29)

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@neologist,

You,

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But, God promises that humans who have died will have a second chance. (John 5:28,29)

How can any god promise "a second chance?" That's beyond common sense or logical - especially when that 'promise' was made millions of years after humans walked this planet. What took him so long? A: Human imagination.

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Neologist said: But, God promises that humans who have died will have a second chance. (John 5:28,29)
Cicerone said: How can any god promise "a second chance?" That's beyond common sense or logical

Right mate, God doesn't do "second chances", that's just Jehovah's Witness hogwash.. Smile

The verse is crystal clear: Jesus said "a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned" (John 5:28/29)

See, no mention of a second chance for the losers to mend their ways and try again!

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Quehon asked: What are your thought about the Ten Commandments?
I am really curious now, and do you really follow the Bible with regards to this?

Well I score about 9 out of 10 so my batting average is pretty good.. Smile

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@cicerone imposter,

He promised a one celled organism, millions of years ago.

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@edgarblythe,

That would be the omeaba or zygote?

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@cicerone imposter,

Not sure which species were living, then.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

I wrote:

: But, God promises that humans who have died will have a second chance. (John 5:28,29)

CI wrote:

How can any god promise "a second chance?" That's beyond common sense or logical

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Right mate, God doesn't do "second chances", that's just Jehovah's Witness hogwash..
The verse is crystal clear: Jesus said "a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned" (John 5:28/29)

See, no mention of a second chance for the losers to mend their ways and try again!

Many Billions of people have gone through life without ever learning of God's promises or requirements. Having sinned, they have died as a consequence.

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(Romans 5:12) . . . through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned. . .

So you are, in effect, claiming no hope for any of these folks.

Say yea or nay. I just want to get that point straight.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

How can any god promise "a second chance?" That's beyond common sense or logical - especially when that 'promise' was made millions of years after humans walked this planet. What took him so long? A: Human imagination.

Well, mostly I was talking about the 'humans' who left written history. I believe that only goes back about 5-6000 years.

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@neologist,

Yea, damn those humans who didn't even know about your god. He creates all this humanity for millions of years, then says 'tough doodoo.' You lived too early, and before my time.

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