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The Absurdity of Atheism

 
 
neologist
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jun, 2014 02:11 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Clever.

I'm having beer. C'mon over.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jun, 2014 02:17 pm
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Neologist said: The catholic church has been responsible for more bloodshed than any other group claiming to be christian.

Some catholics are better than others, but as long as they go round praying to Jesus's human mum and to human "saints", I'll always regard catholicism as a satanic religion.
Jesus said to pray only to God (or possibly to himself), so prayers to anybody else is just like firing blanks..Smile
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jun, 2014 02:42 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

The loons have taken over the lake . . .
... and they're ripping each others feathers out, what a show Smile
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 05:34 am
You can't beat this place for free entertainment.
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 05:36 am
@neologist,
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For that, you are correct. But you left out all the other religions of the world, all having roots in Babylon


You are right, but offcourse I wasn't talking about the other religions.
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 05:38 am
@neologist,
Quote:
The catholic church has been responsible for more bloodshed than any other group claiming to be christian.


AMEN


btw AMEN is from RA-AMEN, the egyptian god so guess who you Really worship!? Wink
fresco
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 05:54 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Wrong again Q !
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The Hebrew word "Amen" means "Be it so!" and is therefore a variant on the verb "to be", as is the self-declared name of God: "I am that I am" or "I be that I be". As a name of God, as used in Revelation 3:14, it would be interpreted as "He that Is."

Amun-Ra has no more parallel with the Hebrew God than being the ruler God. One might just as easily say he is parallel with Jove, or Zeus, or Odin. /quote]
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 06:03 am
Quahog is never interested in mere paltry evidence for the bullsh*t he peddles. Don't you know that by now?
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 06:09 am
@Setanta,
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Quahog is never interested in mere paltry evidence for the bullsh*t he peddles. Don't you know that by now?


That is a very, dumb, conclusion you made. That certainly doesn't mean it is true. Wink
giujohn
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 07:20 pm
I recently had a conversation with my brother and he told me when he became an atheist. When we were young it was a sin to eat meat on friday. He had been offered something with meat to eat while at a friends house and forgot it was friday and he ate it. He was worried afterward because he had commited a sin and it bothered him for some time. Shortly after the incident the church said it was now OK to eat meat on friday...it was at this point he realized that if it could be a sin one day and not the next that this religion was, as he put it,"full of ****." He was ten years old. He's been an atheist ever since.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 07:21 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
Setanta is not the only person saying that. Me, for, instance.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 07:40 pm
@giujohn,
I can relate with your brother's ah ha moment, but I was a few years older than your brother. Even as youngsters, some of us understand common sense. Some people just keep giving and giving and giving....
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giujohn
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 08:12 pm
Im sure some here will take this as a purely derogatory comment but I offer it merely as my own observation.
I truly believe that those who believe sight unseen with out any verifiable evidence in something as impossible as "god" are simply delusional...there is no other logical explantion. After all, the antithesis of logic is delusion. I can find no objective basis for any logic in religion and no one who believes has been able to furnish me any.
The difference between me and a theist is that if presented with a logical argument with any credible evidence showing that god existed I would believe.
The theist can be showed all the evidence in world and shown all the logic there is against his belief and he wouldnt even consider it.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 08:24 pm
@giujohn,
I can agree with your observation about evidence, but believing in any religion is based on faith.
Since human perception is based on subjective truths, one cannot equate religion with science. That's the reason so many people of religion are scientists.

It's not a matter of how we perceive intelligence or IQ. People of all different levels of intelligence believe in one religion or another.

The proof is that 84% of humans believe in their religion.
giujohn
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 08:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I think your use of the word faith plays into my arguement in that this type of faith is without basis.
I have faith that if I jump off a building I will hit the ground...I base that on evidence and emperical experimentation.
When one says I have faith god exists that faith is based on mere belief without evidence and this is illogical, therefore delusional.

Also, Im not sure the majority of scientists are religious...I thought the statistic was just the opposite.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 08:52 pm
@giujohn,
I disagree with both your assumptions.
People who believe in their religion is based on 'faith,' and the majority of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity.

From Pew Research.
Quote:
Indeed, the survey shows that scientists are roughly half as likely as the general public to believe in God or a higher power. According to the poll, just over half of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity or higher power; specifically, 33% of scientists say they believe in God, while 18% believe in a universal spirit or higher power. By contrast, 95% of Americans believe in some form of deity or higher power, according to a survey of the general public conducted by the Pew Research Center in July 2006. Specifically, more than eight-in-ten Americans (83%) say they believe in God and 12% believe in a universal spirit or higher power. Finally, the poll of scientists finds that four-in-ten scientists (41%) say they do not believe in God or a higher power, while the poll of the public finds that only 4% of Americans share this view.


What I have bolded has to be based on faith.
giujohn
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 09:01 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You number is correct...I did find this interesting.


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A few years ago, though, a significant major Pew Study revealed that most American scientists (51%) believe in some form of higher power deity. While this percentage is far lower than most average Americans, the study does note some very interesting data points. For instance, this exact study was done with the same questions back in a 1914 survey as well as in 1996. While American culture has become less influenced by Judeo-Christian values, surprisingly American scientists answered almost the same way as their 1914 counterparts. In other words, in the academic scientific world, there has not been an increasing secular drive among America’s scientific community. This is important to highlight because all that has increased in recent years then is the rhetoric of those who would like to create a wedge among the scientific and theistic communities.





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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 10:58 pm
@fresco,
well, I meant Amen-Ra, sorry for that.

But it is even worse, ALL religions actually pray to Saturn (=satan). without being aware of that.
One symbol of Saturn is the cube, hence people in Islam pray to this cube, saturn.

like here:

http://media.web.britannica.com/eb-media/43/156343-004-5851FEEB.jpg



Saturn worship is all around us, take e.q the logo for nike:

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGFJwWxJGkXDtXXFq1EDWhcsw5lsFo8Mued-i49tncyftFUYa_QwXxtbg6

or the "lord of the rings" (Saturn is the lord of the rings) and so much more..


the 'twin towers'' and so on and so forth
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 11:16 pm
@edgarblythe,
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Setanta is not the only person saying that. Me, for, instance.


So, if 2 people are saying it, it suddemly becomes truth?

nope.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jun, 2014 11:16 pm
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Glujohn said: Shortly after the incident the church said it was now OK to eat meat on friday...it was at this point he realized that if it could be a sin one day and not the next that this religion was, as he put it,"full of ****." He was ten years old. He's been an atheist ever since.

Yes, Organised Religions have always been full of krap, Jesus himself said so, and they killed him for it!

"You're full of shite!" (Matt 23:27)
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Jesus-v-snoots.gif~original
Jesus said “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look good on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean" (Matt 23:27)

I have great fun going round the message boards of internet-land kicking the krap out of them..Smile

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/way-madmaxRomeo_zps01ae368c.gif~original
 

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