Was I sexually abused?

Because there is no concern for justice, pounding on alleged abusers is the full extent of the agenda.

CPS and APS are protective agencies--their primary purpose is to protect the vulnerable from harm. Their job is not to pound on abusers, it's to stop the abuse, or get them away from the person they are harming.

No therapist she consults now is going to report anything she says to anyone. She can be certain of that.

If a therapist can address the situation on their own, and the child is not in serious danger or jeopardy, and the family is cooperative, most therapists will do their own intervention first

By law, mandatory reporters must report suspected abuse or neglect of a child regardless of whether or not the knowledge of the abuse was gained in the reporter’s official capacity. In other words, the mandatory reporting of abuse or neglect of children is a 24-hour obligation.

Mandatory reporters, while acting in an official capacity, who come in contact with an elderly or developmentally disabled adult they suspect have been abused or neglected, must report to DHS or law enforcement.

Who are mandatory reporters?

Medical personnel: Physicians, psychiatrists, surgeons, residents, interns, dentists, dentist hygienists, medical examiners, pathologists, osteopaths, coroners, Christian Science practitioners, chiropractors, podiatrists, optometrists, naturopathic physicians, registered and licensed practical nurses, emergency medical technicians, substance abuse treatment personnel, hospital administrators, physical, speech and occupational therapists, and other personnel involved in the examination, care or treatment of patients.

School and child care personnel: Teachers, school personnel, educational advocates assigned to a child pursuant to the School Code, truant officers, directors and staff assistants of day care centers and nursery schools.

Public employees: Members of the Legislative Assembly, employees of the State Commission on Children and Families, the Child Care Division of the Employment Department, the Oregon Youth Authority, a county health department, a community mental health and developmental disabilities program, a county juvenile department, and all DHS employees.

Law Enforcement: Truant officers, probation officers, law enforcement officers, and field personnel of the Department of Corrections.

Others: Psychologists, licensed clinical social workers, licensed professional counselors, licensed marriage and family therapists, members of the clergy, attorneys, firefighters, court appointed special advocates, registered or certified child care providers, and foster care providers and their employees.

What confuses me that in the past (here at a2k) Bill and Hawkeye have been soft/ambivalent on their definition of sex abuse. You have always taken a much more judicial (?) yet still judicious approach to sex crimes and sex offenders. The world seems a bit off now the two roles have been reverse. Did I find myself in Bizarro World?

No therapist our poster consults now will report anything she tells them about her brother's behavior, when she was 8, to any agency. I am absolutely certain of that.

She will not put her brother at any legal risk by what she tells a therapist now about her brother's behavior when she was 8 years old. I am absolutely certain of that.

The Fed Gov in cooperation with the victim advocacy industry has been very active in pushing new mandatory reporting laws through state governments. a list of recent "progress" is found here

http://www.ncsl.org/research/human-services/mandatory-rprtg-of-child-abuse-and-neglect-2013.aspx

A priest or preacher would probably know the local law, as would an attorney. Many attorneys will answer such basic questions for free.

here we are telling children to turn to a trusted adult when they will know anyone they even slightly open up to will be on the phone one second afterward to the police or will be breaking the law themselves.

My lord what a long list and here we are telling children to turn to a trusted adult when they will know anyone they even slightly open up to will be on the phone one second afterward to the police or will be breaking the law themselves.

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Don't you see that as a good thing--that someone will take action to protect a child who tells them about abuse or neglect? The child can trust such a person to take action--that's the purpose of a mandated reporter.

I fail to understand why it upsets you that there are people who are obligated to report abuse that may be placing a child in danger, or jeopardy, or which may otherwise be seriously harming the child.

In the past you've defended rapists and child pornographers, and now you're trying to shield those who otherwise abuse children? I notice you're not concerned about the abuse, or its effect on the child, just diminishing the "risk" for the abuser, or the possible consequences for the abuser, if the abuse becomes known to CPS..

That's why the state can't depend on people like you to help children who might be abused and that's the reason they have mandated reporters, who are legally obligated to seek help and intervention for children they believe are being legally abused or neglected.

This is in today's news. The temperature in that area has been in the teens and 20's, and the house was unheated, and the children had no food. It was reported to authorities by the school, who are mandated reporters, after a teacher became aware of the situation from one of the children..

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Cops: Kids Left Alone 6 Days While Parents at Hotel
February 13, 2014

A New York couple has been arrested after police say they left their two teenagers and two younger children alone without food or heat for six days while they stayed at a hotel.

Tulio and Maria Ayala of Central Islip on Long Island are each charged with four counts of child endangerment.

Police say their children were left unsupervised while the couple stayed at a nearby hotel. The children's ages are 15, 13, 8 and 4.

The Central Islip school district contacted authorities. The couple was arrested Wednesday. Their attorneys' names were not immediately available
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/cops-ny-kids-left-days-parents-hotel-22503716

Thank goodness those children did turn to a trusted adult--and one mandated to report that situation.

Thank goodness those children did turn to a trusted adult--and one mandated to report that situation.

The children, who were not injured, were released to a family member.

Read more: http://www.myfoxny.com/story/24716699/cops-parents-left-kids-alone-to-stay-at-hotel#ixzz2tFh9REnh
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Laws differ from state to state. Katie should tread carefully. A priest or preacher would probably know the local law, as would an attorney. Many attorneys will answer such basic questions for free.

My lord what a long list and here we are telling children to turn to a trusted adult when they will know anyone they even slightly open up to will be on the phone one second afterward to the police or will be breaking the law themselves.

Cops: Kids Left Alone 6 Days While Parents at Hotel
February 13, 2014

A New York couple has been arrested after police say they left their two teenagers and two younger children alone without food or heat for six days while they stayed at a hotel.

Tulio and Maria Ayala of Central Islip on Long Island are each charged with four counts of child endangerment.

Police say their children were left unsupervised while the couple stayed at a nearby hotel. The children's ages are 15, 13, 8 and 4.

The Central Islip school district contacted authorities. The couple was arrested Wednesday. Their attorneys' names were not immediately available
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/cops-ny-kids-left-days-parents-hotel-22503716

My lord what a long list and here we are telling children to turn to a trusted adult when they will know anyone they even slightly open up to will be on the phone one second afterward to the police or will be breaking the law themselves.

Cops: Kids Left Alone 6 Days While Parents at Hotel
February 13, 2014

A New York couple has been arrested after police say they left their two teenagers and two younger children alone without food or heat for six days while they stayed at a hotel.

Tulio and Maria Ayala of Central Islip on Long Island are each charged with four counts of child endangerment.

Police say their children were left unsupervised while the couple stayed at a nearby hotel. The children's ages are 15, 13, 8 and 4.

The Central Islip school district contacted authorities. The couple was arrested Wednesday. Their attorneys' names were not immediately available
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/cops-ny-kids-left-days-parents-hotel-22503716

But the Ayalas told a different story.
“I have been a good parent for 15 years with them,” Tulio Ayala said.
Outside court after being arraigned and released, they told CBS 2 they left their four kids in the care of Tulio Ayala’s mother, who lives in the basement.
“We were having marital problems, and so I told my mom, ‘I’ll be back in a few days — can you watch them?’ And you know, she said she was fine with it,” Tulio Ayala said. “I left them with money in my own house, and she lives in the basement and everything, so they were not unattended.
The Ayalas said they left their children $100 dollars, food stamps and space heaters. But the grandmother called police, reporting the children home alone.
“She never called or attempted to text me, and said look, ‘I don’t want to watch them,’” Tulio Ayala said. “I would have come home.”
“I’m very upset. I just can’t stand how family can do this to you,” added Maria Ayala.

In other report grandma says that the kids are often left on their own. Maybe these are some free range parents, actively teaching their kids how to deal with the world so that they will not be dependent victims like so many Americans..who knows. But we do know that the kids were so fine after these 6 days of alleged trauma that they were not even taken to an institution for observation and evaluation. The kids were fine.

Police said it was school officials who notified them the children were left unsupervised for six days.

They said the grandmother worked and was not home supervising the children, and an oven was used to heat the home.

And neighbor Cathy Martin said the grandmother could not afford to take care the children. She said the parents are rarely home, and the children often seem hungry.

“You can tell when somebody needs something, and the little girl, Sasha — which is my sweetheart; they all are – she would always tell me they were, ‘I’m hungry,’ and I would always, just, you know, give her stuff,” Martin said. “I didn’t know it was to this level.”

Police said the children were not harmed and were released in the care of a relative. The Ayalas said they will fight to get their children back.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/02/13/long-island-couple-accused-of-leaving-4-kids-home-alone-for-6-days/

Outside court after being arraigned and released,

And no grandma did come over with groceries

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The purpose of mandatory reporting is to trigger an investigation to protect the welfare of the child

And the purpose of mandatory reporting is to prevent future abuse by the alleged abuser against other children in the alleged abuser's supervision.

So they were not really left alone, but the state charges abuse anyways. Just another of so many examples of why we can not trust the state to use its power justly.

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And no grandma did come over with groceries

Grandma did not need to "come over" to the house, grandma lives in the house.