IS AMERICA A BULLY?

@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one. They are not evidence which supports a thesis. I'm not surprised that you don't know that. I'll bet you can't go one week without vicious personal remarks. It seems to be all you've got going for your.

Jabba, Jabba, Jabba...c'mon. get a grip.

Of course everyone has opinions. And I presented mine. That was my thesis. And when you asked me to "support" it, I did.

It is my opinion.

Your opinion differs.

I realize that.

And so, instead of pursuing that...you have deigned to give me lessons on how to be courteous and non-personal in remarks here in the forum.

That is precious, Jabba...simply precious.

You make my day so much more enjoyable by engaging in give and take with me...I cannot thank you enough.

Mmmmaaahhhh. (Big smooch!)

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

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most Americans do not graduate college, nor have my IQ.

Are you actually saying that most Americans are STUPIDER that you are???

No. I am saying what I am saying. That being that my IQ is on the right side of the IQ bellcurve, past the 130 mark. The vast majority of people, let alone Americans, are to the left of the 130 mark. Whether that equates to stupidity is stupid, in itself, since people make stupid decisions at all points on the bellcurve.

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

Ah-hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha . . .

What a clown. What evidence have you used to support your thesis?

Just to interject a thought. When Britain was "top dog" she utilized commandeered sailors, via the habit of Black and Tans raiding Irish villages for conscripts. I do not think the U.S. Navy is manned with anyone raided from anywhere.

Doesn't Mutiny on the Bounty nicely chronicle the sadistic nature of the British Navy's method of maintaining discipline? The U.S. Navy maintains discipline due to the desire of its sailors to follow orders, and take a pride in their job descriptions.

Is this thread really addressing the original premise by just comparing dead and method of killing, as opposed to the nature of the respective militaries? This might be a subset of the original premise. That being that the U.S. maintains it top dog position based on the desire of the "volunteer" rank and file personnel to do their job, as opposed to the Captain Bly method of maintaining discipline with possibly the efforts of the Black and Tans.

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@Foofie,

Foofie wrote:

I do not think the U.S. Navy is manned with anyone raided from anywhere.

If you exclude conscripts from being raided - I don't think that any navy of any country is manned with anyone raided from anywhere.

If, however, you look at the history of the US-navy instead of comparing the one of today with others centiries ago, if you do so ... you'll notice that the US-navy wasn't a lot different to any other of that time. Only smaller, by ships and men.

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@Setanta,

No, you were implying that I didn't care about the Japanese victims of US fire bombing because they were 'Japs'

I deliberately used "some people" so that I wouldn't be suggesting you considered one means of death more horrific than another. But that huge chip on your shoulder consistently causes you to perceive insult and straw man arguments when none exist. When I insult you, and I do, you don't have to decipher it.

You made a dread straw man argument. I really don't care but at least be honest about it.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Foofie wrote:
I do not think the U.S. Navy is manned with anyone raided from anywhere.

If you exclude conscripts from being raided - I don't think that any navy of any country is manned with anyone raided from anywhere.

If, however, you look at the history of the US-navy instead of comparing the one of today with others centiries ago, if you do so ... you'll notice that the US-navy wasn't a lot different to any other of that time. Only smaller, by ships and men.

I think you are mistaken. However, that is not the premise of this thread, since it is comparing the U.S., as a superpower, to the nations that were superpowers in a prior era. Britain did "rule the seas" with a navy that was manned based on white slavery to a degree. One could then extrapolate that if they had nuclear weapons, each colony might have received a small detonation to tell them who is boss. The U.S. only used nuclear weapons once, as the culmination of a five year war.

Wouldn't you rather hug a fellow European than attempt to prove me wrong? Why don't you send your epistles to someone that can appreciate them?

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@Foofie,

Foofie wrote:

I think you are mistaken.

That might well be. I really better shouldn't rely on what is written by the Naval History & Heritage Command.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Foofie wrote:
I think you are mistaken.

That might well be. I really better shouldn't rely on what is written by the Naval History & Heritage Command.

Save the sarcasm and hug a European.

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@Foofie,

Foofie wrote:

Save the sarcasm and hug a European.

You really are such a person what others call you ...

I'm glad that I've met CAPT Henry J. Hendrix Jr., USN, director of said command.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Foofie wrote:
Save the sarcasm and hug a European.

You really are such a person what others call you ...

I'm glad that I've met CAPT Henry J. Hendrix Jr., USN, director of said command.

Plus, I'm only one person. No human wave of Foofies.

I'm inured to what people think of me, since I know that their opinion is based on a belief that I should be deferent to their opinion. No such luck. I just don't hear their drummer. The drummer I hear just happens to be the drummer that made the U.S. a superpower. I served them humbly, and others might resent that?

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@Foofie,

When Miriam took her timbrel out and all the women danced ... it actually wasn't a timbrel but a drum: just listen more carefully, Foofie!

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

When Miriam took her timbrel out and all the women danced ... it actually wasn't a timbrel but a drum: just listen more carefully, Foofie!

You are doing religious schtick? I do not know any stories about Mirian. Nor, do I appreciate your condescending attitude.

Anyway, let's be honest, the collective belief on this forum is that when some people discuss Israel's right to exist it doesn't even come secondary to caring for the Palestineans/Arabs that might be casualties, due to military actions in self-defense, or retaliation. Or, even the inconvenience of checkpoints for security. So, no one is concerned about the feelings of the few Jews on the forum that might consider that more than Germany was a willing partner to the Final Solution . So, in the desire to have an even playing field, I recognize that willingness to show little concern for a Jew's feelings, about the survival of Israel, and I just then have little reason not to offer a good dose of "Jewish obnoxia." The difference is that in NYC, people "kid" about Jewish obnoxia, with no real strong reaction, since NYC thrives, due to Jewish capital in many venues. However, in the hinterlands of the U.S., or abroad, I (Foofie) am considered derelict in my duty to play the role of the timid/deferential/obsequious Jew. That is not a New York Jew. Perhaps, a Jew in the hinterlands of the U.S.?

Anyway, since few care if I would be offended by the rantings against Israel, as though their first war was the Infitada, and not the four wars fought for their survival, I will just be my naturally obnoxious self, without all the name calling some find necessary to reply to a posting.

Please refrain from acting so professorial towards me. Most Jews in NYC are of Russian descent, and many consider many German Jews as fools for thinking of themselves as Germans AFTER WWII.

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@Foofie,

Well there must be some problem elsewhere then, either at the input level (meaning your information sources: garbage in garbage out, whatever the intelligence of the analyst) or in the delivery. Because I hate to break it to you but you don't come across as very smart...

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@Foofie,

Foofie wrote:

Plus, I'm only one person. No human wave of Foofies.

A "human wave of Foofies"? Hey Very Happy

, that would be neat! Cool

I can just see it now: a wave of Foofies followed by a wave of Setantas followed by a wave of Finns followed by a wave of Izzys with a coldjoint and a jcboy thrown in to add more fizzle with measly wmwcjr sitting on the beach, as always! Drunk

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

Mmmmaaahhhh. (Big smooch!)

A heartwarming conclusion to another entertaining online altercation. Smile

Frank, you know perfectly well that Setanta doesn't look like Jabba. Not at all. So, why do you insist upon calling him that? If you keep on doing that, he will never take you seriously. Wink

You guys should kiss and make up!

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@izzythepush,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Nor did it chose to humiliate and enslave its enemies.

izzythepush wrote:

Just your allies. Still troops stationed over here to threaten and intimidate the locals. Harold Wilson was forced to resign thus undermining the democratic process. God only knows what they would have done had we not gone along with the invasion of Iraq.

All those British servicemen's lives lost for a country that treats them with utter contempt.

Izzy, does your post contemplate
an American military attack on England???

Do u assert that English citizens are frightened
of American troops stationed there ?

Does your post imply an American danger of overthrow
of the English government ?

That we 'd take over England, as we did Mexico ?

David

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@wmwcjr,

There is only one Finn. A wave is unnecessary.

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@Foofie,

Foofie wrote:

Most Jews in NYC are of Russian descent, and many consider many German Jews as fools for thinking of themselves as Germans AFTER WWII.

I know. I've spoken with a couple of KZ-survivors. And in Israel, Amcha has special programs for the 200,000.

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@Foofie,

Foofie wrote:

. . . However, in the hinterlands of the U.S., or abroad, I (Foofie) am considered derelict in my duty to play the role of the timid/deferential/obsequious Jew. That is not a New York Jew.

I agree with Foofie.
Having observed NY for years, decades and centuries,
I can attest that its Jews are not timid, nor deferential, nor obsequious.

David

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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Re: wmwcjr (Post 5561993)
There is only one Finn. A wave is unnecessary.

That be true! Razz

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