IS AMERICA A BULLY?

I should not speak for Frank

Izzy said re GW Bush: I'm amazed that anyone can still believe he was a good president. Can you think of anything positive to say about his term in office?

But plenty of time!

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But plenty of time!

I don't have plenty of time and neither do you. Which is precisely why you should try and not waste time with futile anachronisms and "what if history had been different" questions...

In that pseudo-historical vein, what I'd really like to know is this: How would American colonists resisted the British army back in 18th century, if King George had had access to the sort of technology the US have access to now?

The red coats would have treated Lexington and Concord like the marines dealt with Falujah, sent drones up the arse of all the founding fathers... and the only picture left of George Washington would have been something like this:

How would American colonists resisted the British army back in 18th century, if King George had had access to the sort of technology the US have access to now?

Hundreds of thousands of people have taken to the streets of London to voice their opposition to military action against Iraq.
Police said it was the UK's biggest ever demonstration with at least 750,000 taking part, although organisers put the figure closer to two million.

When the majority of the population are opposed to something you can't say they bought into it, regardless of what the politicians did.

Everybody happy?

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I should not speak for Frank

I'm glad you're speaking up...but explain why it's not fair?

We've already pretty much proved that America is a bully.

In fact the problem is that Frank wrote a JTT headline for his question and then had to dodge the rotten tomatos normally reserved for JTT.
No.
The question should be :"Is America a more benign super-power than previous nation builders?"
Then Frank could have stood proudly with his good citizenship medal on his lapel.

izzythepush wrote:

To be honest Frank I'd rather think nicely of America than rake over the coals ad nauseam. I'm being honest with you about the effect I think your thread has had. Ask yourself has this thread had the desired outcome. I really don't think it has.

However, you can comfort yourself with the knowledge that as this is A2K, with a small audience, any damage to America's reputation is tiny and localised.

I should not speak for Frank, but I saw his purpose as merely pointing out that calling America "a bully" is not fair.

To me, labeling a nation as a bully is shallow. How has this been "pretty much proved?"

Narrow-minded demonizing of an entire nationality is fodder for extremists.

To me, labeling a nation as a bully is shallow. How has this been "pretty much proved?"

Narrow-minded demonizing of an entire nationality is fodder for extremists.

wandeljw wrote:

To me, labeling a nation as a bully is shallow. How has this been "pretty much proved?"

Narrow-minded demonizing of an entire nationality is fodder for extremists.

Frank didn't ask if Americans collectively were bullies, he asked if America were a bully. Frank established the discussion on the basis of the behavior of nations, and he has continued it in that vein. Did you just forget to read the opening post? Have you ignored his continued (and idiotic) references to the "restraint" the United States has shown? I guess you must be saying that Frank, from the outset, has been shallow and narrow-minded.

Setanta wrote:

So we're basically back at the pot-kettle situation, the tu quoque fallacy. That's not surprise. The United States has not shown any more restraint than any other "great power." Frank's just too ignorant to know that, and completely unwilling to admit his ignorance, or to cure it.

I am not ignorant, Jabba...I am merely sharing my opinion that we are not abusing our great power more than any other great power of the past.

And yes...according to t he books, the Hutt's were not as restrained in their use of power as we.