So Saying That Folks Should Follow Christian Morals is NOW A Firing Offense

@engineer,

Duck Dynasty might qualify just on bad taste alone.

@Thomas,

I try to keep in mind that this was written by men inspired by "GOD". When my mother spoke to god they put her in a mental institution.

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@RABEL222,

I agree with you. Amazing isn't it?!

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

...So, I think it's reasonable to say that they tried to silence Ellen DeGeneres' gay voice in the media, by the backlash and blacklisting that occurred following her "coming out". She really didn't regain her stature again until she made the animated film, "Finding Nemo."

Okay. I thought he was implying that they tried to take gay television personalities off the air. If he was only saying that they voiced a negative opinion of the content, I find that more plausible.

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@Germlat,

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Yes but still ..she had success with her talk show, and her stand-up bits.

I was giving an example of a gay voice in the media that the far-right and religious right tried to silence after Ellen DeGeneres, as well as her character, "came out" on her TV comedy show, "Ellen" and the TV character, as well as the actress, began openly pursuing a gay lifestyle.

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But all the praise was swamped by a negative conservative backlash. The right-wing group Media Research took out a full-page ad on the back cover of Variety on April 17 claiming that ABC and Disney were “promoting homosexuality to America’s families.” Pat Robertson, Phyllis Schafly, Rev. Donald Wildmon, and Rev. Jerry Falwell joined a group of antigay right-winters to sign a scathing letter characterizing “The Puppy Episode” as “a slap in the face to America’s families.”

She was blacklisted, and it took her years to rebuild her career. Even Laura Dern, who appeared on that show, found herself backlisted for a time as well.

Yes, it's now 16 years after that 1997 episode of "Ellen" and she does have a successful talk show now, and a great career, but that wasn't the case back then, when she was dealing with the backlash of her "coming out"..

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@Brandon9000,

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Okay. I thought he was implying that they tried to take gay television personalities off the air. If he was only saying that they voiced a negative opinion of the content, I find that more plausible.

When Ellen DeGeneres found herself blacklisted, after the "Ellen" show, they were trying to keep her off the air--she couldn't get work.

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

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Okay. I thought he was implying that they tried to take gay television personalities off the air. If he was only saying that they voiced a negative opinion of the content, I find that more plausible.

When Ellen DeGeneres found herself blacklisted, after the "Ellen" show, they were trying to keep her off the air--she couldn't get work.

So, people didn't choose to hire her? The fiends! I thought that she became a regular on "American Idol" after her show.

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@Brandon9000,

She wasn't on American Idol until 2010--her earlier controversial "coming out" show was on TV in 1997-98. By 2010 she had successfully reestablished her career, Forbes listed her worth in 2010 at about $65 million. And, now she's married, to Portia de Rossi, and living the sort of normal life she always wanted--just the way heterosexuals do.

What she had done, in 1997 was really ground-breaking, and the far right, and religious right, didn't like the ground she broke...

You wanted an example of how the far right tried to silence a gay voice, who was already on the media, I gave you one..they really went after Ellen DeGeneres...personally and professionally. Things have changed a lot in the past 16 years.

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I thought he was saying that some people tried to have gay media personalities fired, which I don't recall hearing about, and which is different from not choosing to hire someone, which probably has occurred. Maybe I read too much into his statement.

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

She wasn't on American Idol until 2010--her earlier controversial "coming out" show was on TV in 1997-98. By 2010 she had successfully reestablished her career, Forbes listed her worth in 2010 at about $65 million. And, now she's married, to Portia de Rossi, and living the sort of normal life she always wanted--just the way heterosexuals do.

What she had done, in 1997 was really ground-breaking, and the far right, and religious right, didn't like the ground she broke...

[YouTube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g-Wh852VyR4[/YouTube]

You wanted an example of how the far right tried to silence a gay voice, who was already on the media, I gave you one..they really went after Ellen DeGeneres...personally and professionally. Things have changed a lot in the past 16 years.

I worked for, contributed to and voted for Barry Goldwater.
Accordingly, I am and was on the Far Right.
I have always supported Ellen DeGeneres.
I take exception to the contrary characterization.
There is no evidence that the Authors of the Supreme Law of the Land were anti-lesbian.
Anyone who differs from the philosophy of the Authors,
DEFINITIONALLY is liberal because he abandons their thought.
That is to say that:
theocrats are LIBERAL, because the Authors were NOT theocrats.

David

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@Brandon9000,

Don't death threats go beyond just trying to get someone fired? Rolling Eyes

The religious right protested that controversial Ellen show, and the excecutive producers, and DeGeneres, received death threats--they had to beef up security at the show.

And guess what, I just read that they've had to beef up security at A & E's NY offices, because now they're receiving death threats and suspicious packages over the decision to suspend duck dude.

What is it with the far right religious wing-nuts and death threats?

These are the allegedly "good Christians"? Rolling Eyes

These are the "good Christian" values they promote--death threats against people they don't agree with, or that they're angry at? Rolling Eyes

.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9Rnmo5JDiEw/T7FTDidALcI/AAAAAAAABII/jbwLY0Ynz8c/s1600/jesus+facepalm.jpg

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@firefly,

Thay are not "far right"
because thay are NOT conservatives on the point in question.
Being conservative means that thay are orthodox in closely, literally
meticulously, scrupulously, rigidly adhering to the US Constitution, which is not theocratic.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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Accordingly, I am and was on the Far Right.
I have always supported Ellen DeGeneres.

David some people like Firefly have an over simple model of society in their minds and like to just label people in simple categories that fit their very simple model.

Right winger label once apply must mean that person is against gay civil rights and very likely to be a racist.

There is no room for an atheist either to support the rights of a religion person to express his feelings that gays and atheists for that matter are going to hell.

There is no room for people with complex opinions concerning gays or racial issues or the criminal justice system or women rights and sexual assaults and so on in Firefly universe.

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A&E has no plans to edit down, or out, show patriarch Phil Robertson’s appearances in the nine episodes that have already been completed of the show’s upcoming 10-episode fifth season, scheduled to debut on January 15. And it is hoping he will be back for Season 6. That said, the network is giving some thought to pushing back start of production on the next batch of episodes currently slated for spring, according to informed sources, as it attempts to see what it can salvage from the wreck left by this week’s GQ article and newly unearthed Phil video. In that 2010 video, Robertson is seen making an impassioned speech against the “gross sexual immorality” of “women with women” and “men with men.” The video, first uploaded by various attendees of a Wild Game Supper of the Berean Bible Church, somewhere in Pennsylvania, shows Robertson alternately demonstrating bird calls, defining his pursuit of happiness as “to blow a duck’s head smooth off,” and discussing the “shameful lust” going on in this country.

“Women with women. Men with men. They committed indecent acts with one another. And they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion,” Robertson said in the video. “They’re full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant God haters. They are heartless, they are faithless, they are senseless, they are ruthless, they invent ways of doing evil.”
http://www.deadline.com/2013/12/ae-grapples-with-death-threats-and-clan-ultimatum-on-duck-dynasty-star-suspension/

The more I read, the worse this man sounds...

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@BillRM,

Palin and Cruz qualify as right wing Republicans

And there definitely is a religious right...

And I have news for you BillRM, the religious right does not support gay civil rights, like gay marriage.

And, when someone says these things about homosexuals...

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“They’re full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant God haters. They are heartless, they are faithless, they are senseless, they are ruthless, they invent ways of doing evil.”

He's appropriately labeled a bigot and a hate-monger.

He's got a "right" to say those things, and other people have a right to condemn him for doing so. He's the one promoting strife and hatred.

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

Palin and Cruz qualify as right wing Republicans

And there definitely is a religious right...

Let 's try to avoid confusion.
Sarah and Cruz are conservative Republicans on some issues.
IF u wish to show that concerning their religious philosophies
thay are conservative, then u need to show close or literal adherence
to the philosophy of the Founders, as manifested in the text of the Constitution.
The word: "conservative" means non-deviant; it means orthodox. It means literal.

Do u wish to point to anything in American History, Firefly,
to support your point; any foundation for the vu of the theocrats ????

Maybe u have discovered something that I don t know about.

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@OmSigDAVID,

I don't need to show you anything, David. Nor do I have the slightest interest in doing so.

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

Don't death threats go beyond just trying to get someone fired?...

"Beyond" is irrelevant. My comment was directed at what he actually wrote. He said that people tried to silence gay media personalities. I, personally, don't remember that happening unless he meant choose not to hire.

So Saying That Folks Should Follow Christian Morals is NOW A Firing Offense

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