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Hubby pouts when I say "no" to sex

 
 
blueveinedthrobber
 
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Wed 25 Sep, 2013 02:36 pm
@JeanAwesome156,
JeanAwesome156 wrote:

I want it known that I'm far from worn out and tired. It's just the sex that I don't enjoy. Although I'm on disability for my major depression and panic disorder, I'm effectively medicated for them. I attend Ashford University online full-time where I'm currently on the Deans list, I'm an Ordained Minister, I clean my elderly parents house once a week, as well as mow the lawn and move the snow. On top of this I keep our apartment spotless. I'm a strong, happy mother of four grown children and three grandchildren from my side, plus I adore my husbands three grown children and two wonderful grandchildren. We are a very close blended family who all love and respect each other equally. We lead a good, honest, and rewarding life with many friends. We are good people. We just happen to have this one important problem that I have brought here for help.
Thank-you,

Jeannie


and yet you define sex, obviously something important to your husband as a chore and talk about how he pouts. A loving person, much less a minister should know that words not carefully chosen can be hurtful. I'd bet the farm your husband is WELL aware you consider sex a distasteful chore.
ossobuco
 
  1  
Wed 25 Sep, 2013 02:41 pm
@ossobuco,
Missed your last post - yikes re the chest pains. I don't know what to say, not my business to tell him what choices to make. That's a hard one. But the doctor knowing could be a good thing overall, it might affect his treatment of your husband in a positive way.

Also saw your last name - fabulous last name.
Painting by Rufino Tamayo - well, one of many of his -
http://raggedclothcafe2.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/hombremirandopajaros.gif

edit again, just saw firefly's last post - good points!
ossobuco
 
  1  
Wed 25 Sep, 2013 03:14 pm
@JeanAwesome156,
In my not so humble opinion is what IMNSHO means.
You can look these kind of acronyms up on urban dictionary -
http://www.google.com/#q=urban+dictionary
ossobuco
 
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Wed 25 Sep, 2013 03:20 pm
@ossobuco,
Replying to myself, I didn't mean by that that you should tell his doctor, but that I think he should... but also none of my beeswax, that is his decision. Whether you should, I'd come down on a definite no, but it's an interesting question.
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Lordyaswas
 
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Wed 25 Sep, 2013 03:52 pm
@JeanAwesome156,
JeanAwesome156 wrote:

I want it known that I'm far from worn out and tired. It's just the sex that I don't enjoy. Although I'm on disability for my major depression and panic disorder, I'm effectively medicated for them. I attend Ashford University online full-time where I'm currently on the Deans list, I'm an Ordained Minister, I clean my elderly parents house once a week, as well as mow the lawn and move the snow. On top of this I keep our apartment spotless. I'm a strong, happy mother of four grown children and three grandchildren from my side, plus I adore my husbands three grown children and two wonderful grandchildren. We are a very close blended family who all love and respect each other equally. We lead a good, honest, and rewarding life with many friends. We are good people. We just happen to have this one important problem that I have brought here for help.
Thank-you,
Jeannie


I think the problem lies in your second sentence.

If it was fatigue but sex was enjoyable, you would be thinking about cutting back on your workload.
It seems as if you run around after others for the majority of any given day. Can't you do the same for your husband twice a week?, but instead of running around, all you have to do is lie there and seem happy.
After all, us blokes are usually done and making a cup of tea in twenty minutes.
Too much to ask for keeping hubby with a smile on his face and a spring in his step?


ossobuco
 
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Wed 25 Sep, 2013 03:55 pm
@blueveinedthrobber,
I get your opinion. She is saying that is what it has become (my now having read more), but get her point of view. Though I haven't experienced that*, I can easily see it as a problemo. But they just married - was this all going on pre marriage? We're they being pure? Not kidding, maybe they think that way.

Anyway, it's clear to me all parties, including the doctors, need to talk at greater length.



* (except once, different, rape and there's a famous at a2k thread about that and how it's all women's fault, it goes on for countless pages; rest of my sex life excellent, I should write a book.)
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ossobuco
 
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Wed 25 Sep, 2013 03:58 pm
@Lordyaswas,
Lordy two shoes, that isn't all she has to do.

Thus some of Firefly's ideas..
firefly
 
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Wed 25 Sep, 2013 04:05 pm
@JeanAwesome156,
I've just read your more recent posts, and I'm flabbergasted. For allegedly honest people, you and your husband have a hard time being honest, particularly with doctors.
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And, we don't know the cause of his impotence because he refuses to speak with his doctor about it. He is diabetic and takes insulin, plus a couple heart meds because he's had congestive heart failure 5 years ago. He has chest pains every time he climaxes but refuses to tell the doctor that he's having chest pains at all! I worry that he may not be healthy enough for the sex that he so desperately wants.

He refuses to talk with his doctor about the cause of his impotence? Or the fact he has chest pains when he climaxes? And you're worried about his "pouting"? Rolling Eyes

And you're risking a possible stroke, by not telling a doctor you've already had a stroke, so you can get HRT, which isn't really helping you anyway? Rolling Eyes

It's time you and your husband began acting like intelligent adults. For starters, you've got to be more honest with your physicians. Your lives may depend on it. And you should both want to be around to see your grandchildren grow up.

Your husband has to speak with a doctor both about his sexual dysfunction and his chest pains--there are methods of treating both. And, you've got to make sure he does those things, because you love him, and you'd like to have a full life with him, and grow old with him. If need be, tell him you don't want to have sex with him until he sees a doctor about those chest pains/angina--and mean it. This is not something you should be humoring, it's too serious. Similarly, there are many causes of sexual dysfunction, which can be treated, and, since your husband is able to experience orgasm, his basic apparatus seems to be working quite well. He needs to let a doctor help him deal with the type of dysfunction he is having, which could have a variety of causes, all of which would likely be amenable to some type of treatment.

And you've got to speak with your doctor about the HRT, and the risks it poses, and whether you should continue taking it, given your past history of stroke, and the fact it isn't doing much for you anyway.
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He jokes with me about getting me a vibrator, but I blush at the thought of it. But, if there's a way to stop the oral sex all together I'm all for it!!

The way to stop the oral sex is just to stop it. And tell your husband it's just not working out well for you. You're both having problems that affect sexual functioning, and you both have to address those problems separately and together. He's got to start by talking to a doctor, and you've got to start by thinking about vibrators, and lubricants, and sex toys, and sex games, and sexual pleasure, without blushing, or becoming embarrassed about it. Sexual feelings are natural, and normal, and healthy, and there is no reason that you should not want to enjoy, and enhance, these feelings as much as possible. And, the more you are able to enjoy your sexuality, the better it will be for your husband as well. It's not just about stopping the oral sex, you need to try to find some sexual pleasure, if you can, for your own sake, simply because these are sensations that make us feel good, they add another dimension to life. And they are wonderful to share with a partner. So, stop blushing, stop being embarrassed, and start feeling more adventurous. It's fun, JeanAwesome156, and that's the part you're missing. You are entitled to have fun with this. Smile

So, get your husband to a doctor, and don't take "No" for an answer. Go on a sexual strike if necessary, or tell him you need him to do this if he loves you. Do whatever it takes, just make sure he talks to a doctor about both his chest pains and his sexual problems, and go with him, and make sure he does that. You can help to give him the emotional support he needs to talk with a doctor about these matters.

And then go see your own doctor about the HRT and the list of meds you are on for depression and anxiety.

There is a good deal of help available for both the problems you have, and those your husband is experiencing. Neither of you should deprive yourselves of seeking such help. And, if you weren't looking for help, you wouldn't have posted here.

If you're smart enough to be on the Dean's List, JeanAwesome156, you're smart enough to tackle these problems in a better way than you've been doing it. Go, girl!

Lordyaswas
 
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Wed 25 Sep, 2013 04:09 pm
@ossobuco,
Sorry. Way too complicated for an ordinary bloke.

Buy him a tub of lube, some viagra and a high definition computer with headphones. Stick them and him in the spare room, put a lock on the door and tell him to punch in hot milfs on google.
Go and make him a cup of tea, and pretend nothing's happened when he appears ten minutes later.
ossobuco
 
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Wed 25 Sep, 2013 04:15 pm
@Lordyaswas,
Uh oh, what are milfs? mothers in law?
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Wed 25 Sep, 2013 04:30 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:

Uh oh, what are milfs? mothers in law?

mother I'd like to ****, though now it is used to label any female not young who is still desirable enough to want to bed. it is intended to be a compliment.
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JeanAwesome156
 
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Thu 26 Sep, 2013 12:26 pm
@blueveinedthrobber,
I'm not trying to be mean or hurtful at all! My husband is very sensitive and I would never chance hurting him.
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JeanAwesome156
 
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Thu 26 Sep, 2013 12:28 pm
@ossobuco,
Nice painting! Yeah, my husband needs to take care of his health better but he refuses.
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JeanAwesome156
 
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Thu 26 Sep, 2013 12:29 pm
@ossobuco,
Thanks for the clarification!
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JeanAwesome156
 
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Thu 26 Sep, 2013 12:33 pm
@Lordyaswas,
No, but he'd like to have it at least every other day. Sometimes more.
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eurocelticyankee
 
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Thu 26 Sep, 2013 12:34 pm
@ossobuco,
Thanks Osso for giving me my best laugh of the day.

You're a sweetheart.
ossobuco
 
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Thu 26 Sep, 2013 12:35 pm
@eurocelticyankee,
<you're welcome>
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JeanAwesome156
 
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Thu 26 Sep, 2013 12:37 pm
@firefly,
Thank-you for your in-put! I appreciate it.
Sincerely,
Jeannie
firefly
 
  1  
Thu 26 Sep, 2013 01:51 pm
@JeanAwesome156,
JeanAwesome156, I think you have to find a way to help your husband both take better care of his health and communicate all of his symptoms--including his chest pains and his sexual problems--to his doctor. These things are clues which will help his doctor in making a diagnosis. And your husband's health and functioning doesn't just affect him, it directly affects you as well. I think you have to let him know you'd much rather be his wife than his widow, and that taking better care of himself is something he needs to do for both of you.
The symptoms your husband is having now can be warning signs of an underlying problem that should be addressed now in order to head off something more serious down the line. His chest pains when he experiences orgasm may indicate that his heart isn't receiving an adequate oxygen supply at that time, and he might require some medication for that. And his sexual difficulties can be related to a cardiac problem as well. The earlier problems can be identified, the easier it is to prevent more serious developments, and it helps to relieve a lot of needless anxiety and worry, for both of you, when you have health problems under better control.

An ounce of prevention is always worth more than a pound of cure.

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Sexual activity and heart conditions can interact in complicated ways, which can be difficult to tease apart. To make matters worse, heart patients (and their partners) are often uncomfortable discussing their sex lives with their doctors and vice versa.

"I've found that most doctors don't have the time -- or the personality -- to talk about sex with their heart patients," says Dr. Edward Chapunoff, a cardiologist in private practice in Pompano Beach, Florida, and the author of "Answering Your Questions About Heart Disease and Sex."

"They are evasive about it," he said. "They won't bring it up themselves and even if the patient brings it up, a doctor might be hesitant to discuss it."

So what's a heart patient to do? Prepare a list of intimacy questions in advance of your next checkup and don't let your doctor's squirming deter you. In the meantime, here are some answers to three not-so-frequently asked questions about sex and heart disease.

Is my sexual dysfunction related to my heart?

The link between cardiovascular disease and sexual dysfunction is well established, at least in men. Researchers have known for years that erectile dysfunction (ED) is disproportionately common among men with CVD (and even among those with risk factors for CVD, such as diabetes and high blood pressure). While erectile dysfunction can result from a number of factors, including psychological ones, the majority of cases can be traced to vascular problems.

The shared mechanism linking ED and CVD is believed to originate in the endothelium, the thin layer of cells that lines blood vessels. Risk factors such as high cholesterol, high blood pressure, and cigarette smoking prevent cells in the endothelium from releasing nitric oxide. This compromises the ability of blood vessels to dilate, which can lead to both atherosclerosis and erectile dysfunction.

Atherosclerosis, the hardening and narrowing of the arteries that causes coronary heart disease, can affect the arteries that pump blood into the penis just as readily as those that surround the heart. But endothelial problems can also prevent the so-called smooth muscle in the penis from relaxing properly. In either case, erections become harder to sustain.

For a long time it was thought that ED was strictly a side effect of CVD and atherosclerosis, but experts now believe that ED may actually precede heart problems. A 2005 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association described ED as a "harbinger" of cardiovascular events.

The study, which analyzed more than 4,000 men without symptoms of CVD or ED, found that the men who subsequently experienced ED were nearly 50 percent more likely than those who did not to experience a cardiovascular event within seven years.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/16/healthmag.sex.heart.attack/

And, on a lighter note--have you ever considered using Reddi-Wip with oral sex? Wink
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Thu 26 Sep, 2013 01:56 pm
Jean wrote:
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I'm not trying to be mean or hurtful at all! My husband is very sensitive and I would never chance hurting him

But he hurts you by forcing himself on you against your wishes, which is technically rape!
GET TOUGH and face the fact that he's a lousy hub, tell him to back off or else you're going to divorce him or leave him.
No real man would force himself on his wife!
 

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