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Shooting at Washington Shipyard

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 08:17 am
@BillRM,
Spare the crocodile tears. You don't even think that rape is a crime.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 08:18 am
@Lordyaswas,
Lordyaswas wrote:
Apologies to edgar.


Ditto.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 08:20 am
@Lordyaswas,
Quote:
Going at that rate of improvement, your country should be about as safe as ours by about 3015.


Sorry your nation violence crime rate is similar to our.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 08:23 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
You don't even think that rape is a crime.


??????????????????????????????????

Only if you define rape as invalid consent after a couple go out drinking not if you define rape as attacking some woman on the way to her car on a dark parking lot.

Your nation had taken steps to insure the safety of rapists that you should be proud of!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 08:25 am
@BillRM,
We don't give our violent criminals unlimited access to automatic weapons. Just look at the difference between homicide rates.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 08:29 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
automatic weapons.


Almost no one have automatic weapons in the US.............

Quote:
Just look at the difference between homicide rates.


Once more if you take away the shameful homicide rate of young black males by other young black males fuel by drug gangs the overall homicide rate in the two nations are similar.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 08:39 am
@BillRM,
Again, take it to another thread Bill.

Leave this thread to get back on track, and be man enough to start your own.
Any comparisons and notions you like, as long as you have the evidence to prove it.
You're being called out of the saloon, McFly.

Or are you chicken?


oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 08:45 am
@Lordyaswas,
Lordyaswas wrote:
Again, take it to another thread Bill.

Leave this thread to get back on track, and be man enough to start your own.
Any comparisons and notions you like, as long as you have the evidence to prove it.
You're being called out of the saloon, McFly.

Or are you chicken?

If it is OK for you clowns to post your lies and bogus stats in this thread, it is OK for him to debunk them in this thread.

Take it to a different thread yourself.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 08:59 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
If it is OK for you clowns to post your lies and bogus stats in this thread, it is OK for him to debunk them in this thread.

Take it to a different thread yourself.


Thanks...............
gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 09:34 am
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/650257/posts

Quote:

In the dark days following the British Expeditionary Force's evacuation from Dunkirk in 1940, Great Britain was a nation virtually disarmed. And not just by the need to abandon equipment on France's beaches to save British "Tommies" to fight another day, but by the policies of its own government. The days of devotion to civilian markmanship, "volunteer rifle clubs" and the idea that there should be "a rifle in every cottage," as proposed by the Prime Minister Marquis of Salisbury in 1900, had given way to restrictive gun control laws that required subjects to demonstrate "good reason" to merely obtain a handgun or rifle. So with Hitler's legions poised to cross the English Channel, the British people were defended by an ill-equipped and defeated army and a "Home Guard" armed with little more than sporting shotguns and pikes.
Help for the beleaguered nation came from both the American government and from the American people, the latter through the "American Committee for Defense of British Homes." In late 1940, the committee sent an urgent appeal -- which, of course, appeared in American Rifleman -- for Americans to send "Pistols - Rifles - Revolvers - Shotguns - Binoculars" because "British civilians, faced with the threat of invasion, desperately need arms for the defense of their homes." Thousands of arms were collected and sent to England, one of which was a .30-'06 Model 1903 target rifle owned by Major John W. Hession. Hession was one of the pre-eminent highpower rifle target shooters of his day, and he used that rifle to win Olympic gold at Bisley Camp in England in 1908. The rifle, unlike the majority sent, was returned and can now be viewed int he national Firearms Museum.

The U.S. Government responded to Britain's peril as well with passage of the Lend-Lease Act in March 1941. Almost immediately, quantities of "U.S. Rifle, Cal. .30, M1" were on their way across the Atlantic, and those guns are the subject of an article by noted M1 Garand historian Scott Duff starting on p. 42. The "British Garands" have an interesting history but the importance of arming the British at that time is made clear by the fact that the rapidly growing U.S. Army itself did not have sufficient numbers of the then-new M1 Garands. Winston Churchill wrote in Their Finest Hour: "When the ships from America approached our shores with their priceless arms, special trains were waiting in all ports to receive their cargoes. The Home Guard in every county, in every village, sat up through the night to receive them. ... By the end of July we were an armed nation ... ."

Now, sadly, Britain is again a disarmed nation, where even Olympic athletes wanting to represent their country cannot own a handgun and where an act of self-defense can land a subject in jail. As with virtually all rifles and handguns, those likely few remaining guns sent to England in its time of desperate need have been confiscated and destroyed. Despite the very near enslavement of England being so close a mere six decades ago, the lesson of the false promises of gun control and personal disarmament were not learned.

Sincerely, ... Mark A Keefe, IV -- Editor
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 09:36 am
@oralloy,
You sir, are either illiterate and can't read the evidence, or a wanker.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 09:36 am
http://www.nraila.org/images/Sendagun.GIF
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 09:45 am
@BillRM,
C'mon, Chicken. Leave edgar's thread alone and put your money where your mouth is.
Let's spell it out again for you s-l-o-w-l-y.
You start a thread.
Make your usual outrageous statements.
We knock you down with evidence.

.......and Oralboy, gunga and any other chickenhawks can join you.
The more the merrier.

I say that the USA is statistically a very unsafe place to live compared to the UK, primarily because you have a larger than average psycho ocd element to your population when it comes to your fixation with guns.

Prove me wrong. Leave this thread alone and get some balls.

We're waiting......

Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 09:47 am
@gungasnake,
Gunga.....wtf?

You're about seventy five years out, mate.

We were desperately trying to get you to show some balls then as well, if you know your history.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 09:49 am
@Lordyaswas,
Lordyaswas wrote:
C'mon, Chicken. Leave edgar's thread alone and put your money where your mouth is.

Again, if it is OK for you to post your lies and disinformation here, it is OK for him to debunk them here.

If you want the circus that your lies are causing to depart the thread, then go find the door yourself.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 10:25 am
@Lordyaswas,
There are already plenty of existing threads asshole where all the numbers has been posted more then once.

This is not a new issue and if you do not wish to see postings challenging your claims on a thread then do not post false claims on those threads.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 10:35 am
@BillRM,
Poor deluded chickenhawk.

Well, I am now off to walk the dog where we will casually stroll past a whole street of unarmed households, into and round part of a 100 acre of beautiful park, where no-one will be armed, and the likelihood of me getting shot by a "drive by" or a criminal is about the same as me getting buggered by a martian.
I'll set up a thread, maybe later, and see if the chickenhawks have enough courage to back up their idiocy with fact.
Once again, sorry edgar.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 10:40 am
@BillRM,
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Guns are hardly the most deadly means of killing your fellow men in large numbers from seized aircrafts using box cutters killing thousands, to a farm boy mixing a truckload of home make explosives killing hundreds, to a drunk who used a few gallons of gasoline to wiped out almost a hundred people at a NYC after hour club that had been proven over and over and over again.

Let's allow full, unlimited access of people with guns on board of aircrafts then. Can't be that dangerous, right? Guns don't kill people, after all...
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 10:57 am
@izzythepush,
He had a top secret clearance with the military and did pass a background check to purchase his shotgun. In fact with the credentials he had, he could have purchased a shotgun in the UK.

Care to tell me what part of any of the the new gun laws would have prevented this attack? You still want to concentrate on the gun aspect of this, but not the mental health issues. No one who has committed a mass shooting in the last several years has been a sane person. They have all had mental issues. Colorado shooting, Gabby Giffords, Sandy Hook and now the Navy ship yard. Everyone of these shooters had a mental issue and no one is doing anything to address that issue.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2013 11:06 am
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
In fact with the credentials he had, he could have purchased a shotgun in the UK.
Credentials don't count to get a shotgun certificate in the UK: you must prove that you have a good reason to have, buy or acquire a shotgun. And before, you have to prove to the chief officer of police that you’re allowed to have a firearms certificate and pose no danger to public safety or to the peace.
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