@0bserver,
Quote:@Frank Apisa,
"The existence of a state of Israel in that area is the kicker. "
I agree. The moment one ethnic group rose up to claim the entire area, peace for all in the area went no where.
Quote:Maybe, but the kicker of that is antisemitism reaching its peak with the Holocaust.
Yes, one has to admit the turning point for European Jews was the Holocaust. After the inhuman devastation visited on European Jews, the world at last had empathy and together with enough bribes to the US president along with the UN the Jews were given their much yearned for goal of returning to Palestine. If one were to be cynical, one could say for the Zionists, the Holocaust was a godsend for they had been trying to get land that belonged to the Arabs for centuries, a quest fathered by Theodor Herzl in 1897. After all it was on such a scale as the monstrous Man's inhumanity to Man, that touched the heart of so many powerful that modern Israel finally came about. Ancient Israelis lost their Israel and were chased out of Palestine; a couple thousand years later, they manage to get part of that land (56%) back, but they are not satisfied. What do they want now?! Another Holocaust to complete their dream of owning the entire area?!!!!
Quote: I'm sure if the Jews were treated in Europe as everyone else, there would be no Israel. So if you're looking for people to blame - try pre-Israel antisemites. What's ironic, they were the ones to scream "Jews, go to Palestine" in the last century, and they are the ones to scream "Jews, get out Palestine" now. I guess they just don't want Jews on this planet.
There is much conspicuous European anti-Semitism at this particular time in history, but a great deal of it stems from the oppression meted out against the Palestinians by the Israelis. The same apply here in the US although anti-Semitism is not as pronounced because criticism against Jews is almost forbidden!....Jews owned the media. But trust me, there's a lot of disdain for that group under the surface due to Palestinian suffering and the use of the American taxpayer money to build illegal settlements!!!!! Although there will always be a residue of dislike for Jews in Europe as ant-Semitism is a part of the class struggle. Actually, the US is the only place where Jews are freer, even more so than in Israel. In the US white supremacy is still dominant and most European Jews are white who assimilate easily if they are secular it is the darker minorities who are treated like second class citizens.
During my research of the Holocaust, both in Europe and the US, I have found people disliked the Jews primarily because it was believed they had killed Jesus. The majority of Europeans, at the time, were illiterate, like the rest of the world, and religion played a commanding role in their minds. No matter how many times people were told the Romans killed Jesus, it always ended with people describing Jews as "Christ Killers."
So in many ways Palestine is a fitting place for Jews to be along with its Islamic brothers and Christians as the three branches of Abrahamism. But it seems the Jews want it all, ALL THE LAND THAT IS, and only scraps left over for the Muslims and Christians.
Shame, that! Because human nature being what it is, there will never be peace with one religion trying to get rid of the others for their land.
