Rodeo clown with Obama mask has big defender: Rush Limbaugh

@revelette,

revelette wrote:

btw, you are pretty "ultra sensitive" yourself.

You are correct; however, I have learned to not expect anyone to act differently, so I have no need to be upset about anyone's being who they are.

I've even heard of Catholics becoming only "superficial" friends, in a WASP neighborhood (suburbia) when their last name was realized to be Catholic and not Protestant. They moved elsewhere, where Catholics lived, and were quite content.

The only place, in my opinion, that mixed race individuals are treated with sincere decency is in a liberal state, in academia. In other words, like Obama, mixed race individuals, in my opinion, should continue their education way beyond four years of college. Toleration seems to correlate with educational level? Or, so it seems.

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@Thomas,

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...I'd like to look at a control experiment before I decide that for myself. So, was George Bush ever subjected to the Rodeo-clown treatment? If he was, did anyone complain? If so, how did the people who ran that rodeo handle the complaint? Does any of you guys know?

I'm thinking your experiment can come to a false conclusion, since a variable is the "newness" of a Black President, and the rodeo incident may only be the harbinger of how a balkanized society, dealing with the cognitive dissonance of a non-WASP President now and into the future, gets an emotional catharsis.

Meaning, even if Bush never had to deal with rodeo type humor, this incident may just become more standard as we get Presidents that are quite different than the old template. In other words, society might have to learn to live with the ambiguity of a President not getting the historical respect they usually got from most of the nation. And, that living with the ambiguity might be best shown by not making a mountain out of a molehill. Henny Penny should be told the sky is not falling. Specifically, because making a big deal over the obvious regional differences in the nation is JUST DIVISIVE. And, societies don't change in a blitzkrieg, but by small steps. PATIENCE is a word that liberals should learn, in my opinion; otherwise, divisiveness is the likely result, and that is just plain unAmerican, in my opinion.

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@revelette,

revelette wrote:

Why have a president if we are not going to respect the office he or she is occupying?

If the kitchen is too hot, one should get out of the kitchen. It is the American way to question the President through direct discourse, or humor. Notice all the political cartoons in the heyday of magazines and newspapers.

By the way, liberals just loved when anyone made reference to the younger Bush's pronouncing the word "nuclear." Well, there were people that loved to think that regardless of his prestigious education he mispronounced certain words.

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@Thomas,

Thomas wrote:

revelette wrote:
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Which side of the line did that fall on?
Disrespecting the president.

And what's wrong with disrespecting the president?

Absolutely nothing.

What is wrong though is considering the president sacrosanct.

Presidents, after all, are simply elected servents of the people. We don't come together every 4 years to coronate a king, and most certainly not a god-king.

The office provides the holder with all the pomp and circumstance he or she can ever expect. The obeisance of the citizenry is far, far too much to expect.

President earn respect or disrespect. The more imperial they perceive themselves, the more disrespect they deserve (but may not receive).

If you have the best damned job in the whole word and you can't handle a little disrespect, retire. However, all the hoopla about respect and disrespect never seems to eminate from the president (they know how good they have it), it's always from their adorants.

From the very beginning, Obama benefited by and relied upon a cult of personality. If you want to be president, it's a good advantage to have, and so I don't, necessarily, fault him for his exploitation of this pathetic phenomenon, but I do fault my fellow Americans who voted for him purely on the basis of ephemeral promise.

When he ran we had a few A2K "conservatives" supporting him on the basis of the fact that he sounded pretty smart when he gave a speech. There may have, as well, been a desire to see a black elected to the presidency which is all well and good but hardly a reason to vote for any black. The last time I looked, the black "race" has turned out a proportional share of miscreants to the white "race."

I would love to think that now that we have elected a black president we won't have to deal with all this racial noise when the next one is elected, but I doubt that will be the case. Racial noise is a political tool and will be used for absolutely as long as it can. Again, I don't necessarily fault the cynical politicians who employ it , but I do fault the citizenry who make it effective.

Footnote to the preceding paragraph: There are a rare few politicians who are not clinical pychopaths; who seek office for the "right" reason. They tend to populate the levels of government closest to the people, but every now and again one manages to rise to as high a level as state governance.

They never, in todays world, seem to run for the presidency.

So our choices are narcissists (Obama) or the would be puppets of a political party (W). We have a much better chance with the latter. At least they don't believe they deserve to be president.

The leader we need is too sane to run for the presidency.

We are well and truly f*cked.

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@Foofie,

If the clown made fun of Obama's ears, that would have been ok and not had any racial overtones at all. But blubbering his lips was just racist period. The only reason the audience "screamed" was the racial aspect of the joke, why else would it have made such a reaction except for the outrageousness of it?

So you are saying my granddaughter better be sure she is smart enough to really excel academically and move to a blue state or just grit her teeth and suck it up?

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@revelette,

revelette wrote:

If the clown made fun of Obama's ears, that would have been ok and not had any racial overtones at all. But blubbering his lips was just racist period.

Maybe I'm having a German--American cultural disconnect here, but I just don't see how that follows.

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@Thomas,

Thomas wrote:

revelette wrote:
If the clown made fun of Obama's ears, that would have been ok and not had any racial overtones at all. But blubbering his lips was just racist period.

Maybe I'm having a German--American cultural disconnect here, but I just don't see how that follows.

Blacks' lips have been caricatured for over a century in minstrel shows and elsewhere in White popular culture.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d2/Bamboozled-2000-posterimg.jpg/215px-Bamboozled-2000-posterimg.jpg

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@Thomas,

Thomas wrote:

In this case, though, the only fact that's been reported is that the Obama clown pursed his lips, and that the audience roared in applause.

I wasn't there and I didn't see what happened so I can't comment on what really happened or offer any interpretation.

The answer I gave however was based on the reports of what happened and with the reactions it caused, and I think the answer still applies if the general reports are accurate.

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@revelette,

Who knew "blubbering" lips (whatever that is) was a clear indication of racism.

Your post suggests that your granddaughter is of "mixed race." I could be wrong, but otherwise your final sentence is a complete non-sequitor.

Frankly, your granddaughter might be ugly, deformed, disabled, fat or just someone nobody seems to like, but she will be far better served by achieving a personal self-confidence that ignores all such slights then having her grandmother tell her why she should feel oppressed.

All of your comments to her or others (ie A2K) will not change how the world perceives her.

Your focus needs to be on reinforcing her sense of self-worth so her critics will be damned.

Even perfectly formed, beautiful white people have critics and enemies.

It's not about what they attack but how you respond.

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@Kolyo,

It's always possible to draw a connection between past racism and current actions. It doesn't mean the connection is valid.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Where in the world do you get off telling me what I tell my granddaughter? For your information I haven't raised the subject in any way whatsoever since she is only three years old. It is something her mother has discussed with me and my husband and we are leaving the decision up to her as it is her business what she tells her daughter. As for the rest of your sanctimonious pontificating post, forget it. I brought up to just point out that racism still does exist and for the first time it's been closer to home. But it is only my personal experience of which I really don't have any proof and was not meant as any kind of evidence. Should have known better, usually do...

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Obama shud be degraded n scorned the same as W was.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Dixie Chicks pulled from air after bashing Bush

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DALLAS, Texas (Reuters) -- There are a lot worse things in country music than your wife leaving you or your dog dying. There's stations not playing your music because you done gone and said some things against the president.

Music superstars the Dixie Chicks are finding out that criticizing President Bush's plans for war in Iraq can cost you air play, big time.

Country stations across the United States have pulled the Chicks from playlists following reports that lead singer Natalie Maines said in a concert in London earlier this week that she was "ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas."

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@boomerang,

To be honest I don't know all the details - I heard it on the radio and so when I saw the comment did anything like this happen to Bush - which from the sounds of it - it did - who knows to what degree.

The thing is that all presidents get taunted in one way or another - just watch SNL or other comedy venues. In addition to many race "jokes" and other inappropriate ways to insult people whatever there background.

I am not saying it is right - just that it does happen to all. I think what bothers me most when they taunt presidents is when they get the family involved especially any of the children. Besides that I may think it inappropriate and disrepectful (and I do agree often times it is crossing the line), but in a sense they put themselves in that position. The kids - they didn't put themselves in it - that is what irks me the most when "joking" about the children.

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@Thomas,

Were you able to go into the actual article? Curious as I cannot get into that website from here, the actual newspaper - it is blocked.

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@Linkat,

From what I gathered the rodeo was brought to light from a poster on Facebook who expressed disgust at the event and then picked up by liberal blogs and then mainstream media. He probably got a lot of flack from it and took it down.

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The performance was brought into the spotlight by Perry Beam, a 48-year-old musician from Higginsville, who was in the audience with his wife, and a student they were hosting from Taiwan.

"I began to feel a sense of fear. It was that level of enthusiasm," said Beam:

"It was the usual until the very end at bull riding. As they were bringing the bulls into the chute and prepping them ... they bring out what looks like a dummy. The announcer says 'Here's our Obama dummy, or our dummy of Obama.' They mentioned the president's name, I don't know, 100 times. It was sickening. It was feeling like some kind of Klan rally you'd see on TV."Beam posted a photo of the clown on Facebook when he returned home from the fair. The photo was picked up by Showmeprogress.com on Sunday, and garnered huge attention on Twitter.

source

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@izzythepush,

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and I hold him responsible for the deaths of thousands of British servicemen.

Stop whining about the soldiers, Izzy. Blair et al put them there. The innocent people of Afghanistan and other countries where the UK supported the War Criminals in Chief are what matters.

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@mysteryman,

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I suggest you not talk about Iraq or what happened there because you don't have any idea what you are talking about.

We know that it was another series of US war crimes, MM.

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@gungasnake,

Those are the people of Vietnam, Guatemala, Nicaragua, ... and the hand is that of US business.

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@Foofie,

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First show some remorse for your country's own sins.

Foofie the pot.

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