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Snowdon is a dummy

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 01:01 pm
@izzythepush,
I was in the group that didn't support the war in Iraq, and even wrote to my congresswoman, Diane Feinstein, not to approve the war requested by GW Bush. She wrote back to me, and said with the information they have, there was no choice but to approve the war.

I've written to my reps in congress several times, and even to the president, but they have ignored my one voice - which turned out to be right 100% of the time. I've given up writing to government officials; it's a waste of time and effort - even after Obama says he listens to the American people. That's BS.

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izzythepush
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 02:35 pm
@BillRM,
The 7/7 bombers cited Iraq. They were home grown and only became radicalised after the Iraq war. We never had a problem with Islamic fundamentalist bombers until then. And we'd just sorted thing out with the IRA as well.

You know **** all, you weren't even aware of the existence of Diego Garcia until I told you. Stop repeating your festering bullshit and try reading a book for once, I'm sure they've got ones with plenty of pictures in.
izzythepush
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 02:38 pm
@Arjunakki,
I never said all, I said most, more than 50%. More than 50% of Americans supported going to war in Iraq. More than 50% of the British opposed the war.

Afghanistan was different, nobody begrudged you that, and a lot wanted to help.
BillRM
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 02:56 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
They were home grown and only became radicalised after the Iraq war. We never had a problem with Islamic fundamentalist bombers until then.


Once more anyone insane enough to think that blowing themselves up along with their random fellow citizens will get them to the front of the line in a heaven full of horny virgins will find some reason/excuse to do so.

Or that such behaviors/actions will change the course of governments for that matter other then for Spain.
Arjunakki
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 03:14 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
I never said all, I said most, more than 50%. More than 50% of Americans supported going to war in Iraq.


Whether it was more than 50%, or less, is really a matter of semantics quibbling because Americans as a whole could not have prevented the already planned agenda of the Neocons/Dick Cheney from invading Iraq. Our government makes the decisions to go to war irrespective how many Americans opposed GWB's position, and opposition would not have made one iota of a difference.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 03:21 pm
@Arjunakki,
That's true, but on the same token, we had UN weapon's inspectors in Iraq to look for WMDs. To start his illegal war, GW Bush had to chase them out, and used his "shock and awe" campaign to kill thousands of innocent people.

How those bastards are able to sleep at night shows how crass and inhumane they are! How can they even smile after their killings and maiming of so many innocent people?
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Arjunakki
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 03:26 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:

I'm basing my criticism about Obama on the Guardian's report on torture. In the first place, I have pretty high confidence in what the Guardian reports, and I don't have that much confidence in Obama.

I do not believe Obama is an honest man; he has done too many things that are not acceptable as president of this country.


Because President Obama has not lived up to your ideal version of a US president have you considered gathering signatures to IMPEACH him? I mean, just saying, in light of your very strong hostile feelings towards him, that might be the route for you and those who feel this way to follow.
BillRM
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 03:29 pm
@Arjunakki,
Quote:
Because President Obama has not lived up to your ideal version of a US president have you considered gathering signatures to IMPEACH him? I mean, just saying, in light of your very strong hostile feelings towards him, that might be the route for you and those who feel this way to follow.


Good luck in trying that can of worms.....talk about a waste of time and resources.

We do not have that form of government that you can recalled a president due to being unhappy with him.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 06:27 pm
@Arjunakki,
It has nothing to do with "my ideal." It's about ethics and honesty; something you fail to understand.

I never said anything about impeaching him. Your imagination is only exceeded by your ignorance.
Arjunakki
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 06:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:

It has nothing to do with "my ideal." It's about ethics and honesty; something you fail to understand.


Are you ASSUMING I "fail to understand" about ethics and honesty? Who died and made you the master of inside my mind? How did you come to access my innermost beliefs, emotions, and subjective thoughts?

Quote:
I never said anything about impeaching him. Your imagination is only exceeded by your ignorance.


I know you did not mention "impeaching" President Obama, but from your daily spouting and obvious growing hatred for the US president I was offering a route of escape for you and your ilk to get rid of the American president whom you appear to so loathed.

When first reading your posts many moons ago you seem to be a supporter of the US president but recently your postings seem elevated with hatred for him. I call em the way I see em.
izzythepush
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 06:56 pm
@BillRM,
Your post was a complete waste of time. You have no understanding of how people get radicalised, you trot out the tiny fragment of Islamic dogma that you do know in order to sound informed, but you really don't have a clue.

People don't blow themselves up because they believe they'll get 40 virgins. You really believe that that's their motivation, their sole reason for doing it? Did you advise the Bush presidency at all? It would explain a great deal.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 07:08 pm
@Arjunakki,
I'm not assuming anything; just responding to your post that seems ignorant about ethics and honesty. You seem to believe it's about my ideals. Guess again!
BillRM
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 07:15 pm
@Arjunakki,
Quote:
I know you did not mention "impeaching" President Obama, but from your daily spouting and obvious growing hatred for the US president I was offering a route of escape for you and your ilk to get rid of the American president whom you appear to so loathed.


Sorry it is not a route of any kind under our "US" system of government no matter how unhappy some of us are of a President.

You can not be a US citizen to think that impeachment can be used to recall a US President from office due to just being unhappy with him or that a petition requesting that would carry any weight.



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JTT
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 08:44 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Afghanistan was different, nobody begrudged you that, and a lot wanted to help.


Why did so many want to get involved in those war crimes, Izzy? So they could all be assured of a front teat.?
JTT
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 08:48 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
I do not believe Obama is an honest man; he has done too many things that are not acceptable as president of this country.


You can't really blame the man, or the woman, should that ever happen. It's the nature of the office, CI. As soon as a body is put into the WH, it's inevitable - they're going to become a war criminal and a terrorist. It's completely unavoidable.

Look at the record.
hawkeye10
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 08:51 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
You can't really blame the man, or the woman, should that ever happen. It's the nature of the office, CI. As soon as a body is put into the WH, it's inevitable - they're going to become a war criminal and a terrorist. It's completely unavoidable.

Look at the record.


what happens when the suit tries to be a God fearing man of good?

Jimmy Carter.

that should put off anyone from trying to do that again for a good while longer don't ya think?
JTT
 
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Sun 11 Aug, 2013 09:08 pm
@hawkeye10,
Jimmy Carter was the least of the war criminals. That man had, and has a big heart. Again, it's not the person, it's the position. Elect Christ himself to the office of prez and war criminal city.
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 12 Aug, 2013 04:25 am
@JTT,
I know you think terrorists should be allowed to blow up civilians in the UK and USA and we shouldn't be able to do anything about it.

You must really miss the public beheadings in Kabul's football stadium.
Arjunakki
 
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Mon 12 Aug, 2013 05:43 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:

I'm not assuming anything; just responding to your post that seems ignorant about ethics and honesty. You seem to believe it's about my ideals. Guess again!



So,let me get this right, you're implying because I do not respond to your statement the way you think, that I appear ignorant of ethics and honesty? You are insulting my basic commonsense and I don't like it. Why don't you just say plainly I do not understand what you're saying instead of mouthing insults or are you incapable of acting accordingly?
izzythepush
 
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Mon 12 Aug, 2013 05:49 am
@Arjunakki,
I know that Obama has taken a lot of flak from the far right Tea Party, and most of it is race related. He is undoubtedly a lot better than his immediate predecessor, but his behaviour towards Snowden is right out of Dick Cheney's playlist.

Although Cheney would probably get Snowden extradited by sucking up to Putin and condemning Alexei Navalny, so Obama deserves some credit for not doing that.
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