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Snowdon is a dummy

 
 
BillRM
 
  2  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 03:36 pm
@Thomas,
Quote:
I agree.

As a rule of thumb, Mame, remember that unencrypted internet communication has about the same level of privacy as a postcard. So whenever you're about to send information that you wouldn't send on a postcard, encrypt it first.


I think we was talking more of hard drive encrypting then internet traffic as internet traffic to banks and now even some email accounts are cover with SSL connections between the server and the user browser.

See the padlock symbol on top of your browser to let you know that you have an SSL connection.

As I said with hard drive encryption I am carrying around a netbook that I can replaced for a hundred dollars or so using ebay if it get lost/stolen.

Without that encryption I would be carrying around the keys to around half a million dollars and anyone could boot that computer and begin transferring funds in short order.

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Thomas
 
  4  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 03:38 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
I love when you are being smug, Thomas. It fits the German persona so well.

I love when you make your retorts about persons rather than their arguments, Frank. It fits my observation that you have little of substance to bring to this discussion.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 03:58 pm
@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
I love when you are being smug, Thomas. It fits the German persona so well.

I love when you make your retorts about persons rather than their arguments, Frank. It fits my observation that you have little of substance to bring to this discussion.


Thank you for another example of the smugness, Thomas. It confirms that I love you when you are displaying it.
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JTT
 
  -2  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 04:10 pm
@Frank Apisa,
You're getting apisaed, Bill.
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JTT
 
  1  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 04:45 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Yeah...I think it is a decent experiment in trying to uncover terrorist plots.


You think that $10 billion spent to chase down some confused kids is worthwhile, Frank? The US doesn't have to spend anywhere near that amount to discover the real terrorists, the ones that have been operating for well over a century, the ones that have caused massive, unknown numbers of deaths.

Really, what in heaven's name is wrong with you folks?
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JTT
 
  -2  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 04:48 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
I love when you are being smug, Thomas.


Then you spent the rest of your post being smug, not to mention incredibly hypocritical. I'm amazed at the stupidity of guys like you, and Setanta, and some others, Frank, who can do this in the span of two breaths.
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RABEL222
 
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Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:04 pm
@JPB,
Sorry. I misunderstood your post.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:06 pm
@RABEL222,
You're usually pretty good about not misunderstanding posters on a2k, so I was a bit surprised.
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RABEL222
 
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Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:08 pm
@Thomas,
Who knows? All we have is the word of some politicians who lie as a matter of course. I would like more information which I am sure could be released without putting anyone in harms way. I would like to see the information and make up my own mind.
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JPB
 
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Sat 10 Aug, 2013 09:38 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

The pressure gotten to the point the President just gotten on TV to tell us that he will oversee reforms concerning the government spying programs.

One wonder if having two American companies just shutting down instead of aiding the government in spying and both stating that trusting any internet company operating under US laws is very unwise might have been the trigger.


Doubtful. Making announcements like this on a Friday afternoon in August when Congress is not in session says much more than anything he actually said.

The reforms he announced were intended to make us feel better that the government has no intention of stopping the collection of meta-data. The only way this is going to stop is if Congress specifically forbids it.

The "trust me, I'm on the inside and you're not" line doesn't cut it when the head of his DOJ has already admitted to lying to the committee charged with congressional oversight.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/obama-new-oversight-no-change-spying-power

Also, his statement that Snowden had alternative options within the chain of command and whistleblower laws is apparently false

Quote:
During the Q&A portion of today's President Obama press conference, reporter Chuck Todd asked Obama about Ed Snowden and whether he was a "patriot," after Obama announced some reforms and even directly made clear that those who support civil liberties and greater transparency "love their country" and are "patriots." Except, Obama said that he does not think Snowden is a patriot, in part because he had signed the Whistleblower Protection Act and extended the protections to the intelligence community. This is laughable on a variety of levels, including the Obama administration's actions against other whistleblowers like Thomas Drake and William Binney, who did go through official channels, and then were subject to ridiculous investigations and (with Drake) totally trumped up charges on a bogus unrelated issue.

But there's a bigger point: Snowden actually is not covered by the Whistleblower Protection Act, entirely contrary to President Obama's claims. That's because the act does not cover contractors, such as those who worked for the NSA via Dell or Booz Allen like Snowden did. After the Snowden revelations came out, the Obama administration admitted that it was "looking at" ways to extend the protections to contractors, but at this time (and at the time that Snowden leaked) they do not cover him.

In other words, there were no legal protections under the Act, contrary to Obama's claims, and (worse) it's not as though the government has a history of respecting such whistleblower protections in the first place. Why bother when you can just trump up some other charges on those same people as punishment? Remember that this is the very same Obama administration that has directly declared that anyone leaking documents is aiding the enemy.
BillRM
 
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Sat 10 Aug, 2013 12:44 pm
@JPB,
Quote:
that the government has no intention of stopping the collection of meta-data


A computer center in Utah that at it openly will have 5 billions terabytes of storage is not design for going after just metadata.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 10 Aug, 2013 01:09 pm
@JPB,
Obama can fool some of the people....
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edgarblythe
 
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Sat 10 Aug, 2013 01:14 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/18/jimmy-carter-edward-snowden_n_3616930.html
Former President Jimmy Carter announced support for NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden this week, saying that his uncovering of the agency's massive surveillance programs had proven "beneficial."

Speaking at a closed-door event in Atlanta covered by German newspaper Der Spiegel, Carter also criticized the NSA's domestic spying as damaging to the core of the nation's principles.

"America does not have a functioning democracy at this point in time," Carter said, according to a translation by Inquisitr.
BillRM
 
  1  
Sat 10 Aug, 2013 01:22 pm
This whole thing is sure not helping the idea that both businesses and individuals should move their information to the cloud with special note of moving that information to firms operating under US law.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 10 Aug, 2013 01:25 pm
@edgarblythe,
I'm not so sure that Obama will leave a good legacy as our first black president.

He's alienated too many people who voted for him by his expansion of the war in Afghanistan, his lies about closing Gitmo, torture of Americans, overlooking our Constitutional rights to privacy, the billions of taxpayer dollars that were transferred to a handful of privileged corporations and New York financial institutions, and failure to stop the oil leaking in the Gulf of Mexico.

The final straw was his decision not to meet with Putin; such a childish decision on all the international issues that needs to be communicated and exchanged with Russia.

Makes one wonder where's he's at, coming from or going to?



revelette
 
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Sat 10 Aug, 2013 02:00 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I tell you CI, your opinions are starting to change like the wind blows. Have you forgotten you started the thread entitled "snowdon is a dummy?" Have you changed your opinion on that?

cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 10 Aug, 2013 02:05 pm
@revelette,
No, but "tangentially" Obama with his NSA program fits the bill of this thread.

It's about the top honcho taking responsibility for everything wrong they do as president of this country. Since they will rarely admit it, we must explain them to the general public at large - every way possible.
revelette
 
  2  
Sat 10 Aug, 2013 02:12 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I don't know, CI, I went back and read a couple of your earliest post on this thread, quite different than the ones you have been having these last few pages.

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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Sat 10 Aug, 2013 02:26 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/18/jimmy-carter-edward-snowden_n_3616930.html
Former President Jimmy Carter announced support for NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden this week, saying that his uncovering of the agency's massive surveillance programs had proven "beneficial."

Speaking at a closed-door event in Atlanta covered by German newspaper Der Spiegel, Carter also criticized the NSA's domestic spying as damaging to the core of the nation's principles.

"America does not have a functioning democracy at this point in time," Carter said, according to a translation by Inquisitr.


Carter should stay retired.

America does have a functioning democratic republic at this time. If he thinks not, senility may finally have taken hold.
revelette
 
  1  
Sat 10 Aug, 2013 02:35 pm
People get carried away, that may be the case with Carter. I like Carter though and agree with him quite a bit; but to say we don't have a democracy is a little too far and not true. Sure there are problems, but they can be fixed.

Just read this:

Wyden: Obama's NSA Proposals Are Nice, But They Don't Go Far Enough

Quote:
On Friday afternoon, President Obama held a press conference where he promised to bring increased transparency to the NSA's digital surveillance programs. He announced a series of proposed reforms to the way the NSA collects data and to how the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) operates, along with plans to convene a group of "outside experts to review our entire intelligence and communications technologies."

US Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., has been one of the biggest thorns in the administration's side when it comes to raising questions about how mass surveillance programs threaten civil liberties. After the president's remarks, he said that he was encouraged by Obama's suggestions, several of which the Senator and others have been pushing to get for years.


 

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