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Snowdon is a dummy

 
 
BillRM
 
  1  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:05 am
@Mame,
Quote:
How paranoid does one have to be to encrypt files? What could possibly be worth encrypting?


LOL so you have not been reading the news of late?

Sorry my private files be those love email to my wife or far past girlfriends or my financial records and the passwords that control access to well over half a million dollars is well worth encrypting.

If I have one of my netbooks stolen or even just lost all I had lost is the cost of the netbook not all the information on it.

Footnote at airports alone hundred of thousands of laptops go missing every year in the US.

Then we have the US government claiming the right to not only access your computers at the borders but made copies of your hard drives at whim repeat at whim.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:09 am
@Mame,
Best question of the year!
BillRM
 
  1  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:13 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Best question of the year!


An if I do say so myself I gave the best answer of the year to the "best question" of the year.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:14 am
@Mame,
Mame wrote:

How paranoid does one have to be to encrypt files?


Extremely!
JTT
 
  2  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:18 am
@Mame,
Quote:
How paranoid does one have to be to encrypt files? What could possibly be worth encrypting?


For a social butterfly, none.

But that isn't the point, though the usual idiots have seized on it. The point is, the US government does not have the right to do what they are doing. It's unconstitutional and illegal.
BillRM
 
  1  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:21 am
@BillRM,
If you do not like my answer we can go with this article.



Quote:


http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/not-just-for-paranoids-4-reasons-to-encrypt-your-digital-life/

Not Just For Paranoids: 4 Reasons To Encrypt Your Digital Life
March 29, 2013
By Chris Hoffman
why you should encrypt your dataEncryption isn’t only for paranoid conspiracy theorists, nor is it just for tech geeks. Encryption is something every computer user can benefit from. Tech websites write about how you can encrypt your digital life, but we’ve all done a poor job of explaining why you should actually care.

We’ve covered a variety of ways to encrypt everything on your computer, encrypt files you store in the cloud, have encrypted online conversations, and do lots of other things with encryption. Now we’ll get back to basics and explain the many threats encryption can help protect you from.

Protect Your Data From Thieves

Encrypting your storage protects the data on it from thieves. If someone steals your laptop, smartphone, or tablet, encryption can prevent them from accessing the sensitive data on your hard drive. The media is full of reports from business employees who lose laptops containing sensitive customer information, including credit card numbers – if only they had used encryption, they wouldn’t have embarrassed their employers and given their customers’ information over to identity thieves.
This is a dramatic example, but it’s true even for the average person. If you store financial data, business plans, or other sensitive documents, such as scans of tax returns with your social security number and other sensitive data on them, you should ensure your computer’s hard drive – or at least the sensitive files – are stored in an encrypted form. Encryption can also help protect any other type of private data that you don’t want someone else seeing.
why you should encrypt your data
Store Files Securely in the Cloud
Cloud storage gives us a great way to keep our files in sync across all our devices, storing a backup copy on the cloud storage corporation’s servers so we won’t lose it. It’s also a great way to share files with other people.
However, storing sensitive data – like financial documents and other personal information – in a cloud storage account could be a mistake. Dropbox once allowed anyone to log into any account without a password for four hours, and this would have allowed anyone to access your Dropbox account and view your files. Your files could also be accessed if someone gained access to your account through other means, such as using a leaked password that you re-used on several website
Encrypting sensitive files prevents them from ever being accessed without the encryption key, even in a worst case scenario when your cloud storage provider’s security fails or someone else gains access to your account. Encrypthion also allows you to securely share sensitive data with other people – just agree on an encryption key ahead of time (you could even do this in person) and then use that key to share sensitive files over email or a cloud-storage service without others being able to access it.
There are even cloud storage services that automatically encrypt your data before uploading it, decrypting it locally when you access it. Not even the cloud storage provider’s employees
JTT
 
  1  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:21 am
@Frank Apisa,
Could you explain further what you mean, Frank?


On second thought, forget it. That sort of thing is beyond you.
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BillRM
 
  2  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:24 am
@JTT,
Quote:
For a social butterfly, none.

But that isn't the point, though the usual idiots have seized on it. The point is, the US government does not have the right to do what they are doing. It's unconstitutional and illegal.


To say nothing of not needing to worry if one of your computers get ripped off that all your financial informations and the means to access all your accounts and credit lines are not in unfriendly hands.
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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:29 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

If you do not like my answer we can go with this article.



Quote:


http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/not-just-for-paranoids-4-reasons-to-encrypt-your-digital-life/

Not Just For Paranoids: 4 Reasons To Encrypt Your Digital Life
March 29, 2013
By Chris Hoffman
why you should encrypt your dataEncryption isn’t only for paranoid conspiracy theorists, nor is it just for tech geeks. Encryption is something every computer user can benefit from. Tech websites write about how you can encrypt your digital life, but we’ve all done a poor job of explaining why you should actually care.

We’ve covered a variety of ways to encrypt everything on your computer, encrypt files you store in the cloud, have encrypted online conversations, and do lots of other things with encryption. Now we’ll get back to basics and explain the many threats encryption can help protect you from.

Protect Your Data From Thieves

Encrypting your storage protects the data on it from thieves. If someone steals your laptop, smartphone, or tablet, encryption can prevent them from accessing the sensitive data on your hard drive. The media is full of reports from business employees who lose laptops containing sensitive customer information, including credit card numbers – if only they had used encryption, they wouldn’t have embarrassed their employers and given their customers’ information over to identity thieves.
This is a dramatic example, but it’s true even for the average person. If you store financial data, business plans, or other sensitive documents, such as scans of tax returns with your social security number and other sensitive data on them, you should ensure your computer’s hard drive – or at least the sensitive files – are stored in an encrypted form. Encryption can also help protect any other type of private data that you don’t want someone else seeing.
why you should encrypt your data
Store Files Securely in the Cloud
Cloud storage gives us a great way to keep our files in sync across all our devices, storing a backup copy on the cloud storage corporation’s servers so we won’t lose it. It’s also a great way to share files with other people.
However, storing sensitive data – like financial documents and other personal information – in a cloud storage account could be a mistake. Dropbox once allowed anyone to log into any account without a password for four hours, and this would have allowed anyone to access your Dropbox account and view your files. Your files could also be accessed if someone gained access to your account through other means, such as using a leaked password that you re-used on several website
Encrypting sensitive files prevents them from ever being accessed without the encryption key, even in a worst case scenario when your cloud storage provider’s security fails or someone else gains access to your account. Encrypthion also allows you to securely share sensitive data with other people – just agree on an encryption key ahead of time (you could even do this in person) and then use that key to share sensitive files over email or a cloud-storage service without others being able to access it.
There are even cloud storage services that automatically encrypt your data before uploading it, decrypting it locally when you access it. Not even the cloud storage provider’s employees



All the respect in the world, Bill, but it sounds as though the guy who wrote this article is paranoid also.
ehBeth
 
  3  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:41 am
@Mame,
what is worth encrypting? to begin with - anything financial you touch online
JPB
 
  3  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:48 am
@BillRM,
As engineer indicated previously, the cost-risk analysis simply doesn't stand the test.

Quote:
A new study suggests that the direct losses to US tech companies from people and companies fleeing to other services (often overseas) is likely to be between $22 billion and $35 billion over just the next three years. Germany is already looking at pushing for rules in the EU that would effectively ban Europeans from using services from US companies that participate in NSA surveillance programs (which is a bit hypocritical since it appears many EU governments are involved in similar, or even worse, surveillance efforts). More
BillRM
 
  2  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:53 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
All the respect in the world, Bill, but it sounds as though the guy who wrote this article is paranoid also.


So you do not lock your door and you would have no problem posting your SS number and date of birth online and have taken no steps to guards you account accesses information and so on?

That anyone who lock their front door and have a safe deposit box for important papers and or a home safe are paranoid?

Strange thinking indeed as encrypting hard drives is just protecting the same kind of information in digits format that a safe deposit protected is non-digit format.

If I did not encrypted my hard drives I would not be a good guardian of not only my resources but family members resources that they had placed in my hands to manage.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:55 am
@JPB,
I need to add this paragraph from your link, because it really hits the nail on the head.

Quote:
The fact is that big terrorist attacks are flashy and attention grabbing. They pack an emotional punch. I still remember quite clearly watching the towers fall in NYC over a decade ago. But we have to face facts: those things are extremely low probability events. A recent look at the probability of getting killed in a terrorist attack compared to almost any other cause of death shows that you're much more likely to be killed by a toddler than a terrorist.
JTT
 
  1  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:59 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
A recent look at the probability of getting killed in a terrorist attack compared to almost any other cause of death shows that you're much more likely to be killed by a toddler than a terrorist.


And yet, look at what y'all have allowed your governments to do with this non-issue. Illegally invade two sovereign nations and slaughter untold numbers of innocents.

Turn your country into a totalitarian state. Turn y'all into quivering little children, without the beauty of children.
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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 11:00 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
All the respect in the world, Bill, but it sounds as though the guy who wrote this article is paranoid also.


So you do not lock your door and you would have no problem posting your SS number and date of birth online and have taken no steps to guards you account accesses information and so on?[/quote[

Hello! Earth calling Bill. Hello Bill.

My date of birth is on line...in my bio here in A2K. It is today, August 9th.

No, I would not publish my SS number.



[quote]That anyone who lock their front door and have a safe deposit box for important papers and or a home safe are paranoid?


No...they are being reasonable with information.

Encrypting everything seems to me to be extreme...and paranoidal. Obviously you do not think so...and that is fine with me.


Quote:
Strange thinking indeed as encrypting hard drives is just protecting the same kind of information in digits format that a safe deposit protected is non-digit format.


Nothing strange about it...if you think about it. But I suspect you are not going to do that.

You also carry a gun to protect yourself.

Some people just require more personal protection than others.

Strange that you are arguing the position you are and I am arguing the position I am considering how we feel about governmental moves these days.




Quote:
If I did not encrypted my hard drives I would not be a good guardian of not only my resources but family members resources that had placed some of their finances my hand to manage.


I understand that is your position. My position is different.
BillRM
 
  2  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 11:05 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Encrypting everything seems to me to be extreme...and paranoidal.


Why is running a free program once for each drive to encrypted the drives and then typing in a password at boot up afterward extreme?

Seems like little in fact a very tiny effort to have top level security and removed the need to worry if one of your computers would fall into unfriendly hands.
revelette
 
  1  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 11:06 am
@JTT,
But that is just it, congress gave NSA the authority to do what they are doing with the passing of the Patriot Act and the 2008 FISA act which btw was just reauthorized in April of this year and extends until 2017.

Fix FISA - End Warrantless Wiretapping

Quote:
The FISA Amendments Act, passed in 2008 and reauthorized in 2012, gives the National Security Agency almost unchecked power to monitor Americans’ international phone calls and emails. On October 29, 2012, the Supreme Court heard arguments in the ACLU’s challenge to the law. In February 2013, the Supreme Court dismissed the ACLU's lawsuit.



Reauthorization of the FISA Amendments Act







JTT
 
  1  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 11:06 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
All the respect in the world, Bill, but it sounds as though the guy who wrote this article is paranoid also.


And considering what is ACTUALLY going on, you don't think he should be, Alfred E Neuman?
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BillRM
 
  2  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 11:10 am
@revelette,
Quote:
But that is just it, congress gave NSA the authority to do what they are doing with the passing of the Patriot Act and the 2008 FISA act which btw was just reauthorized in April of this year and extends until 2017.


An congress in it history had passed laws that would get you jail for insulting the President or making an anti-British movie and so on.
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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 9 Aug, 2013 11:11 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
Encrypting everything seems to me to be extreme...and paranoidal.


Why is running a free program once for each drive to encrypted the drives and then typing in a password at boot up afterward extreme?

Seems like little in fact a very tiny effort to have top level security and removed the need to worry if one of your computer would fall into unfriendly hands.


Obviously you consider the things you are doing to be normal, reasonable and prudent, Bill. I get that...and I am fine with it.

I think they are over the top...and to me, they seem a bit paranoidal.

That is the alpha and omega of this issue. Not trying to insult you...or even say that you are wrong. I am of a different opinion...and am sharing that opinion.
 

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