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Snowdon is a dummy

 
 
Olivier5
 
  1  
Tue 10 Nov, 2015 02:28 pm
@BillRM,
That's probably true.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Wed 11 Nov, 2015 09:46 am
Spiegel reported a bit about it earlier, but today public radio station "rbb-Inforadio" reports that the BND (Germany’s foreign intelligence agency) spied on the FBI, U.S. arms companies, France's foreign minister Laurent Fabius, multiple international embassies (including the one of the Holy See) and even a German, the EU-ambassador to Turkey.

Today's positive news is that Microsoft launches a Germany-only data cloud.
RABEL222
 
  3  
Wed 11 Nov, 2015 11:03 am
@BillRM,
Tell you what, google bush contribution to hitlers germany and you will get hundreds of links to Prescot Bush. Im not going to post links I know you will just ignore. He and several U S businessmen got rich doing business with Germanys nazi government. Dosent get much notice because it was covered up by the government and the media. But it was declassified just lately. Look it up.
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RABEL222
 
  5  
Wed 11 Nov, 2015 11:10 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
and inbred tea baggers like you are a relic of the bad old days.


I wish you were correct but where I live the tea baggers are increasing in number. Like Bill they believe only the worst of democrate, liberals and think republicans are god like and the bible takes presidence over the constitution.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Wed 11 Nov, 2015 12:00 pm
@RABEL222,
The demographic is changing though, Americans are getting darker and I can't see many Hispanics rushing to join the TP.
BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 11 Nov, 2015 01:25 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
Like Bill they believe only the worst of democrate, liberals and think republicans are god like and the bible takes presidence over the constitution.


Like Bill??????

Fool first of all I am a god damn atheist, second of all I am a voting member of the democrat party and I just been attacking college speech codes and defending the first amendment in another threat on this website.
RABEL222
 
  4  
Wed 11 Nov, 2015 07:48 pm
@izzythepush,
The minorities are still a voting minority and the conservatives are working mightily to keep it that way. As an example a town of 250 near the town in which I live had a polling place which was closed and now they have to drive 15 miles to vote. Democracy as practiced in the conservative U S of A.
RABEL222
 
  3  
Wed 11 Nov, 2015 07:49 pm
@BillRM,
If your a liberal I'm a trillionare.
BillRM
 
  0  
Wed 11 Nov, 2015 07:53 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
f your a liberal I'm a trillionare.



Check you bank account my simple friend.
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Thu 12 Nov, 2015 01:57 am
@RABEL222,
The fact that they have to resort to such tactic means they can't win fairly, it might take longer to change, but it will come.
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Olivier5
 
  2  
Thu 12 Nov, 2015 08:08 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I've seen that. The interesting part for me is that it offers an opportunity to prove that the NSA is very much involved in industrial espionage.
revelette2
 
  4  
Sat 28 Nov, 2015 11:13 am
NSA to shut down bulk phone surveillance program by Sunday

Quote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. National Security Agency will end its daily vacuuming of millions of Americans' phone records by Sunday and replace the practice with more tightly targeted surveillance methods, the Obama administration said on Friday.

As required by law, the NSA will end its wide-ranging surveillance program by 11:59 p.m. EST Saturday (4:59 a.m. GMT Sunday) and expects to have the new, scaled-back system in place by then, the White House said.
The transition is a long-awaited victory for privacy advocates and tech companies wary of broad government surveillance at a time when national security concerns are heightened in the wake of the Paris attacks earlier this month.

It comes two and a half years after the controversial program was exposed by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden. The move, mandated by a law passed six months ago, represents the greatest reduction of U.S. spying capabilities since they expanded dramatically after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

Under the Freedom Act, the NSA and law enforcement agencies can no longer collect telephone calling records in bulk in an effort to sniff out suspicious activity. Such records, known as "metadata," reveal which numbers Americans are calling and what time they place those calls, but not the content of the conversations.

Instead analysts must now get a court order to ask telecommunications companies like Verizon Communications to enable monitoring of call records of specific people or groups for up to six months.

"The act struck a reasonable compromise which allows us to continue to protect the country while implementing various reforms," National Security Council spokesman Ned Price said.

Some Republican lawmakers want to preserve bulk collection until 2017, citing the Nov. 13 Paris attacks in which 130 people died. The Islamic State has claimed responsibility for the killings.

But any new surveillance measures are unlikely to become law ahead of the November 2016 presidential elections.

A presidential review committee concluded the surveillance regime did not lead to a single clear counter terrorism breakthrough that could be directly attributed to the program.

Metadata collected by the NSA over the past five years will be preserved for "data integrity purposes" through February 29, the White House said.

After that the NSA will purge all of its historic records once pending litigation is resolved.
RABEL222
 
  1  
Sat 28 Nov, 2015 04:03 pm
@revelette2,
Thinking in terms of France and terroists I am not so sure this is a good thing. If it will save a couple of hundred to thousands of lives I could endure them pikeing on my phone conversations.
BillRM
 
  2  
Sat 28 Nov, 2015 04:31 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
Thinking in terms of France and terroists I am not so sure this is a good thing. If it will save a couple of hundred to thousands of lives I could endure them pikeing on my phone conversations.


The problem with that thinking is that there is no known cases of the massive spying program playing a large part in stopping a terrorist attack or detecting a future terrorist attack for that matter.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Sun 29 Nov, 2015 06:32 am
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

Thinking in terms of France and terroists I am not so sure this is a good thing. If it will save a couple of hundred to thousands of lives I could endure them pikeing on my phone conversations.


Absolutely!
oralloy
 
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Sun 29 Nov, 2015 06:43 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
I've seen that. The interesting part for me is that it offers an opportunity to prove that the NSA is very much involved in industrial espionage.

Can't prove what isn't true to begin with.
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oralloy
 
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Sun 29 Nov, 2015 06:44 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
RABEL222 wrote:
Thinking in terms of France and terroists I am not so sure this is a good thing. If it will save a couple of hundred to thousands of lives I could endure them pikeing on my phone conversations.

Absolutely!

Snowden has blood on his hands. It's his fault that the intelligence community failed to stop the Paris attacks.
BillRM
 
  2  
Sun 29 Nov, 2015 08:08 am
@oralloy,
Name me one time that massive spying on US citizens had stop one terrorist attack.....just one damn example would do.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Sun 29 Nov, 2015 08:15 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
RABEL222 wrote:
Thinking in terms of France and terroists I am not so sure this is a good thing. If it will save a couple of hundred to thousands of lives I could endure them pikeing on my phone conversations.

Absolutely!

Snowden has blood on his hands. It's his fault that the intelligence community failed to stop the Paris attacks.


Not sure it is positive...but if I had to bet, I'd bet that the world would have had a better chance of preventing that attack if Edward Snowden had not done what he did.

I still am anxious for him to get a fair trial.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Sun 29 Nov, 2015 08:30 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Snowden has blood on his hands. It's his fault that the intelligence community failed to stop the Paris attacks.
So the NSA had stopped spying on Belgian and French citizens due to a "Snowden effect"?
 

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