Snowdon is a dummy

All he has to do is to come back and face trial.

Besides returning to face trial, fair or not, there are two more possibilities:

Third possibility is that he live out his life in Russia or some other nation with his girlfriend.

That's not very nice

So far as I know he is free to return, but I dont think he has any obligation to put his head in the mouth of American law when that law is unjust, it being the tool of an abusive government.

He was serving the collectives interest, because in my opinion the governments abuse of its own citizen is a more grave threat than terrorism,

if the collectives agent named the government does in fact punish a defender of the collective then the agent is discredited .

I reserve the right to change my mind once terrorists get portable nukes, which is coming, I might be willing to give up some of my rights to fight that threat id te required global government has not been formed in time.

Also, I dont think that national governments can defeat terrorism, a global government is going to be needed for that.

I am not willing to give up everything important that America stands for in the lost cause of the USA governments war or terror.

Let the government do what it can about terror up to the point of abusing me only, and let's get to work with the long term solution, a global government.

Besides returning to face trial, fair or not, there are two more possibilities:
1) The US government drops the charges
or
2) Russia deports or extradites him

True but then wishing to grant the right to murder a US citizen on US soil to some intelligence bureaucrat is not very nice either to say the least.

It is a perfectly reasonable reaction when some thug (Snowden) actively helps terrorists kill innocent Americans, and people propose letting him escape justice.

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Okay...so let him return.

So far as I know he is free to return, but I dont think he has any obligation to put his head in the mouth of American law when that law is unjust, it being the tool of an abusive government. He was serving the collectives interest, because in my opinion the governments abuse of its own citizen is a more grave threat than terrorism, if the collectives agent named the government does in fact punish a defender of the collective then the agent is discredited . I reserve the right to change my mind once terrorists get portable nukes, which is coming, I might be willing to give up some of my rights to fight that threat id te required global government has not been formed in time.

Also, I dont think that national governments can defeat terrorism, a global government is going to be needed for that. I am not willing to give up everything important that America stands for in the lost cause of the USA governments war or terror. Let the government do what it can about terror up to the point of abusing me only, and let's get to work with the long term solution, a global government.

Frank Apisa wrote:

All he has to do is to come back and face trial.

Besides returning to face trial, fair or not, there are two more possibilities:
1) The US government drops the charges
or
2) Russia deports or extradites him

Then all the things that can happen in a fair trial can happen. He can be found guilty; found not guilty; jury nullification can happen...or whatever

No it not a perfectly reasonable reaction and we do not need Argentina type dirty war in the US.

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Then all the things that can happen in a fair trial can happen. He can be found guilty; found not guilty; jury nullification can happen...or whatever

"whatever" including citizen revolt.

Does Washington act like they want to have him back and having to deal with this? I have not seen that they do.

The US government has the right to kill traitors who go around helping terrorists kill innocent Americans.

Hawk...what are you thinking?

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Hawk...what are you thinking?

I am thinking that I am not aware of Washington trying very hard to get Snowden back. Do you know that they have?

You mean...like...they have not invaded Russia?

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You mean...like...they have not invaded Russia?

What have we done? Have we offered either carrots or sticks? I dont know of any, all I know about is talk, and talk is cheap.

The US government has the right to kill traitors who go around helping terrorists kill innocent Americans.

Not without just laws (which includes following the Constitution) and a fair trial which includes the presumption of innocence and the right to counter the states story with witnesses and evidence.