Snowdon is a dummy

The FBI demanded that Scandinavian countries arrest and extradite Edward Snowden if he flew to any of those countries and claimed asylum, newly released official documents reveal.
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“The US Department of Justice is prepared to immediately draft the necessary paperwork to request the extradition of Snowden to the US from whichever country he travels to from Moscow,” the letter, dated 27 June, states. “The FBI expresses its gratitude … for any assistance that can be provided on this important matter.”

In a separate letter to the Norwegian foreign ministry on the same day, the US embassy in Oslo spelled out its request that the government of Norway should “effectuate the return of Mr Snowden to the United States by way of denial of entry, deportation, expulsion or other legal means”.

In a subsequent letter dated 4 July the embassy repeated its request that Snowden be arrested and extradited to the US under the 1977 extradition treaty between the two countries.

Snowden’s lawyer Ben Wizner told NRK he suspects that the US sent similar documents to most of Europe and other countries at the time.

Snowden has been invited to Norway next week to receive the Bjørnson Prize from the Norwegian Academy of Literature and Freedom of Expression, but he decided not to travel because he could not receive guarantees from the Norwegian government that he would not be extradited, the academy told NRK.

The Norwegian government said it had not replied to the requests from the FBI and the US embassy in Oslo to extradite Snowden because he had not come to Norway.

Julian Assange, the whistleblowing journalist wanted by the US for leaking thousands of diplomatic and military communications, sought asylum in the Ecuadorean embassy in London three years ago because of his fears of extradition to the US should he comply with Swedish demands to travel to Stockholm for interrogation over sexual assault allegations. Sweden has declined to issue a guarantee of his safety, arguing that Assange would be adequately protected by human rights legislation.

Informed by the Guardian about the NRK revelations, Thomas Olsson, one of Julian Assange’s legal team in Stockholm, said: “This shows the Americans are very determined to get their hands on people that they think have damaged their security or a threat to security policy, and that includes of course Julian Assange.”

A spokesperson for the Swedish police said the FBI’s request was a matter for the Prosecution Authority, which stated: “Normally the Swedish Prosecution Authority gets involved after a person is apprehended and the police need to contact a prosecutor in order to get the suspected under detention. The decision regarding extradition is taken by the Swedish government.”

legitimate charges

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Once more bullshit as far as legitimate is concern.

"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action."

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"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action."

The above quote from an unknown author sum the situation nicely as far as our current government and it reach for ever more power using terrorism as an excuse to attack our right to privacy.

Snowden is a hero who was willing to teared up his life to warn his fellow citizens of the secret actions of our government that is aimed far more at our freedoms then to a war on terror as none of this massive and random spying had proven useful in that war.

That the FBI demanded Scandinavian and other countries to arrest and extradite Edward Snowden has nothing to do with the actual US-government and the governments of those countries nor really with previous governments but with international and bi-lateral treaties.

If you want to debate what makes it "within its rights"...fine.

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legitimate charges

BULLSHIT

Snowden is a hero who was willing to teared up his life to warn his fellow citizens of the secret actions of our government

that is aimed far more at our freedoms then to a war on terror

as none of this massive and random spying had proven useful in that war.

What Snowden did when he exposed the specific methods of our intelligence agencies was tell his terrorist buddies how to evade our surveillance.

Nonsense as using email accounts as dead drops and using strong encrypting and TOR and any of the other methods such as throw away phone and so on and on is known by anyone who care to do the research.

The only thing the government can do with it mass spying is to target people who are not doing illegal acts and therefore are not taking protected steps.

Before Snowden wrecked the phone metadata program, the government was able to use it to confirm whether a given lead was promising or a dead end, which helped to focus resources where they were most needed.

Before Snowden wrecked the phone metadata program, the government was able to use it to confirm whether a given lead was promising or a dead end, which helped to focus resources where they were most needed.

There had been zero evidence that the massive collection of date had been of any help at all and that go before Snowden and after Snowden released information.