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Snowdon is a dummy

 
 
JTT
 
  1  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 09:56 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
The first immigrants brought education and music to America.

They are contributing members of US society.


You forgot weinerschnitzel.

Sounds just like the propaganda of your school days, eh, CI? Fill us with heart warming stories of the melting pot.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 11:20 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
You are the freak around here.

Nope. The freaks are you immoral scumbags. I'm what is known as "one of the good guys".


Olivier5 wrote:
The diplomatic cables leak never got anyone killed.

Sure they did. You just think it is OK to murder democracy activists because you're such a scumbag.


Olivier5 wrote:
And Assange is no sex criminal.

That's easy to say when you aren't the one being raped.


Olivier5 wrote:
Don't confuse him with the likes of Knox.

No chance of that. Amanda and Raffaele have morals and integrity.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 11:22 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
You forgot weinerschnitzel.

YUM!

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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izzythepush
 
  0  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 04:55 am
@cicerone imposter,
1820, that's going back a long way, I don't see how those people can consider themselves anything other than American.

One of my great grandmother's emigrated from Ireland in the late 19th Century. I don't consider myself remotely Irish.
Olivier5
 
  2  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 05:06 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Sure they did.

Like who?
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izzythepush
 
  0  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 05:15 am
@RABEL222,
That's your forte, along with being incredibly uninformed about the world in general.
RABEL222
 
  3  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 09:23 am
@izzythepush,
O I dont think so Izzy. I read newspapers, books, watch tv, listen to radio, get on the computer and find what foreign commentators are saying rather than go with the U S of A is the great satan stick like you and JTT do. I think my thinking is much more rounded than yours and his. I bet that even in England and Europe your general opinion is in the minority.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 09:30 am
@izzythepush,
You criticize others for being uninformed, and that includes you! America is made up of many different nationalities, cultures, races, and countries. Immigration to America has been a dream for many around this world, because although our country represents only five percent of the world's population, we are the richest and strongest.

Our American culture is 'rich,' because it's the combination of many including European.

You really don't know much, do you?

Dreams are made here more than any place else on earth. Who wouldn't want to come here?
izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 10:08 am
@RABEL222,
I've never called the US the Great Satan. I just disagree with some of their Governments policies, and actions. It's typical of your simplistic mindset that you categorise all legitimate criticism as being just anti-American, that way you don't have deal with reality.

You're very good at vague, blanket pronouncements, but when you're asked to be a bit more specific, you go all quiet.
izzythepush
 
  0  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 10:14 am
@cicerone imposter,
I'm fully aware of the diverse group of immigrants that make up America's rich cultural heritage.

You said that 16% of the population were Germans, not people whose ancestors came over from Germany back in 1820, before Germany was even a country, that's hardly the same thing. They stopped being German a long time ago, they're Americans.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 10:20 am
@izzythepush,
What are you trying to say? My grandparents came to the US in 1896. I'm third generation American, but my cultural background still remains Japanese, therefore Japanese-American.
izzythepush
 
  0  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 10:27 am
@cicerone imposter,
Japanese American is not the same as Japanese. On one of your many sojourns abroad, if someone asked you your nationality you wouldn't say you were Japanese, you'd say you were American.

You made it sound like there was a significant, and ongoing post war movement of Germans to America.

You didn't say 16% of Americans have German roots, you said 16% of Americans are German. They're not.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 10:27 am
@cicerone imposter,
It seems Yahoo has 'persuaded' the secret court to release records about their enforcement to comply with the governments request for records. That's according to a newspaper report this morning. Should be interesting.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 10:29 am
@izzythepush,
Y0u wrote,
Quote:
Japanese American is not the same as Japanese.

Who said it was? I know this better than you, because I've experienced it. You didn't.

Many ask what my Asian background is on tours. Anywhose, how would you know? You have never traveled with me! You're arriving at assumptions based on your own myopic background.

No such thing as
Quote:
ongoing post war movement of Germans to America
. Just another one of your imagined problems in the US.
ossobuco
 
  1  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 10:36 am
@izzythepush,
And Izzy has been in the US and isn't all that ignorant of our variations. Many of us on a2k generalize sometimes in conversation typed fast, when we know better than our generalizations (they're just handy). I'm american and I most often agree with him (and he knows that), though of course not always.. I don't like sweet liqueurs much..
edit - most liqueurs are sweet, even the bitter ones like italian amari. So I prefer the ones that aren't solely sweet and fruity. (I know I'll have to eat my words)
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izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 11:36 am
@cicerone imposter,
You're insane, just because my neighbour's granddad was German doesn't make him German. One of my friends' dad is Irish, but he's not, he's English, he wouldn't describe himself as anything other than English.

You said Germans, which means people speaking with German accents, not Americans whose parents came over way back when. When I pointed that out to you, you accuse me of believing it.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 11:44 am
@izzythepush,
It seems the UK use different terms for new or old immigrants than the US. The US census still uses race and ethnicity as does most countries around the world.

From Wiki.
Quote:
Race and ethnicity in censuses
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Map showing countries where the ethnicity or race of people was enumerated at least in one census since 1991. Myanmar has not had a census enumerating people by ethnicity/race since 1991, but it is planning to hold such a census in 2014.
Many countries and national censuses currently enumerate or have previously enumerated their populations by race, ethnicity, nationality, or a combination of these characteristics.[1][2] Different countries have different classifications and census options for race and ethnicity/nationality which are not comparable with data from other countries.[1][3] In addition, many of the race and ethnicity concepts that appear on national censuses worldwide have their origins in Europe or in the views of Europeans, rather than in the views of the locals of these countries.[4] The concept of race has no scientific basis, but it does have value in a social and/or cultural sense in some countries.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 11:52 am
@izzythepush,
You wrote,
Quote:
I've never called the US the Great Satan. I just disagree with some of their Governments policies, and actions.


We also disagree with our government's policies and actions. So, what? Do you always agree with your government's policies and actions?

Like I said, you suffer from myopia of the brain.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 11:54 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
The US census still uses race and ethnicity as does most countries around the world.

It certainly depends on what you call "most countries around the world".
From you above quote:
http://i43.tinypic.com/33f3x2s.jpg
Map showing countries where the ethnicity or race of people was enumerated at least in one census since 1991

cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 16 Jul, 2013 11:58 am
@Walter Hinteler,
You are free to determine that all on your own. Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes
 

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