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Snowdon is a dummy

 
 
izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 06:18 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

The Swedish charges are minor. And when did Assange ally himself with 9/11 perpetrators?


If all Americans were like Oralboy, 9/11 would be justified.
Olivier5
 
  2  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 06:36 am
@izzythepush,
The guy's crazy. Asperger syndrome IMO.
oralloy
 
  -3  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 07:09 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
He's not charged with rape but failure to use a condom.
Which is a VERY bad crime your father committed when he screwed your mother. Very unfortunate too, in your case, given the result.

Very childish. Did one of your favorite Palestinians get squashed by a tank or something recently? Laughing

I see you have plenty of excuses for your favorite sex criminal.


Olivier5 wrote:
Like the New York Times and the Washington Post...

Not even close. They redacted all information that would get innocent people killed.

I know to a freak deranged enough to support Palestinian vermin, saving human lives would not seem very significant, but to those of us who have actual morals it makes all the difference in the world.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 08:31 am
Snowden Backlash: US Media Get Personal:
Quote:
[...]
In his broadside against Snowden and Snowden's press contacts, Pincus was going along with both the government and the zeitgeist. A growing number of mainstream media outlets have been focusing their criticism on the leakers -- Snowden in Moscow, Greenwald in Rio -- instead of the content of their leaks. American headlines aren't being dominated by the latest details of the seemingly endless scandal, but by the men who brought them to light.

This began at the Post when Snowden, before contacting Greenwald, offered his secrets to security reporter Barton Gellman. Gellman quickly discredited Snowden as "capable of melodrama," partly because of his uncompromising terms. Since then Snowden hasn't provided any more revelations to the paper.

And so it has continued. The financially struggling Post, which was responsible for exposing the Watergate scandal, derided the Guardian as "financially struggling" as well as "small and underweight even by British standards." "Why is a London-based news organization revealing so many secrets about the American government?", it griped, as if that were only permitted of American journalists.

A recent Post editorial, that may as well have been written by the White House, argued that Snowden's leak harms "efforts to fight terrorism" and "legitimate intelligence operations." The leaks must immediately end, it argued -- a strange conclusion from the grandmother of leak journalism. Columnist Richard Cohen didn't hold back either: Snowden is "narcissistic," Greenwald is "vainglorious."

He wasn't alone. In the New York Times David Brooks accused Snowden of having "betrayed honesty and integrity." Roger Simon, chief political columnist at the website Politico, referred to Snowden as "the slacker who came in from the cold." Jeffrey Toobin, a New Yorker essayist, called him a "narcissist who deserves to be in prison." And Melissa Harris-Perry, from the otherwise progressive cable channel MSNBC, critized Snowden's behavior as "compromising national security."

In The Huffington Post, media critic Jeff Cohen called MSNBC the "official network of the Obama White House" -- a White House which, under president Obama, has famously declared war on whistleblowers.

There's another reason for the united media front: The Guardian is becoming a competitive threat for American media outlets. The first Snowden video interview received almost seven million clicks on the newspaper's US website. "They set the US news agenda today," Associated Press star reporter Matt Apuzzo tweeted enviously.

Why? Janine Gibson, the Guardian's American chief, told the Huffington Post that their competition has a "lack of skepticism on a whole" when it comes to national security. Critical scrutiny, she said, has been considered "unpatriotic" since 9/11. ... ... ...
izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 08:55 am
@Olivier5,
There's definitely something wrong with him neurologically. Asperger's syndrome wouldn't explain why he is so disgusting. He fantasises about killing children, and spends all his time playing violent video games.

He needs to be remanded to a secure mental health facility before he starts acting out his sick fantasies.
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 10:08 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

Yes, your laws were broken...and ONLY 5 attacks were prevented in Germany.
That has been relativist today: there were two (well-known) 'nearly-attacks', where some were arrested in 2006 and 2007 ... and which had been published by the media in those days ; the other three were not named, but happened earlier and in a very early stage of a possible attack, the interior ministry's spokesperson said today.
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Olivier5
 
  3  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 10:12 am
@oralloy,
You are the freak around here. The diplomatic cables leak never got anyone killed. And Assange is no sex criminal. Don't confuse him with the likes of Knox.
Olivier5
 
  2  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 10:14 am
@izzythepush,
Yes, a sicko indeed, serial killer material. And the more one talks to him, the more agitated he becomes.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 10:53 am
The "Dagger Complex" is home of the USAF Security Services, 2nd Radio Squadron Mobile (they will later move to "Little Pentagon" when the building there are ready).

Someone living nearby, planned a walk there, to watch the rare species of spies. And announced that on facebook.
Since that is observed by the NSA was by pure chance seen by the US-military police, they asked the German police for help.

The police gave the advice, to register a demonstration. Which was done:

http://i40.tinypic.com/j5lchy.jpg

Accompanied by two German patrol-cars, about 70 people walked there, had fun, some beer but couldn't spot any species of spy.

http://i44.tinypic.com/2mgkot0.jpg
izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 11:09 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Very long feature in today's Guardian. This is a bit of it.

Quote:
When contemplating the euphemisms that have slipped into the lexicon since 9/11, the adjective Orwellian is difficult to avoid. But while such terms as extraordinary rendition, targeted killing and enhanced interrogation are universally known, and their true meanings – kidnap, assassination, torture – widely understood, the disposition matrix has not yet gained such traction.

Since the Obama administration largely shut down the CIA's rendition programme, choosing instead to dispose of its enemies in drone attacks, those individuals who are being nominated for killing have been discussed at a weekly counter-terrorism meeting at the White House situation room that has become known as Terror Tuesday. Barack Obama, in the chair and wishing to be seen as a restraining influence, agrees the final schedule of names. Once details of these meetings began to emerge it was not long before the media began talking of "kill lists". More double-speak was required, it seemed, and before long the term disposition matrix was born.

In truth, the matrix is more than a mere euphemism for a kill list, or even a capture-or-kill list. It is a sophisticated grid, mounted upon a database that is said to have been more than two years in the development, containing biographies of individuals believed to pose a threat to US interests, and their known or suspected locations, as well as a range of options for their disposal.

It is a grid, however, that both blurs and expands the boundaries that human rights law and the law of war place upon acts of abduction or targeted killing. There have been claims that people's names have been entered into it with little or no evidence. And it appears that it will be with us for many years to come.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/14/obama-secret-kill-list-disposition-matrix
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JTT
 
  1  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 12:13 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Just another pointed reason why, according to an American journalist, the US press corps could be cut in half, at random, and it would make no difference whatsoever.

I guess that is also going to piss JPB off that I was right that the US media is simply intent on disseminating US government propaganda.

Pravda, if you ever need to get back into business, watch and learn.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 12:21 pm
Interesting article.
http://news.yahoo.com/snowden-affair-chance-truce-cyber-war-u-n-161334837.html
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Olivier5
 
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Mon 15 Jul, 2013 02:32 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
Pravda, if you ever need to get back into business, watch and learn

The Pravda is alive and well, spouting Putin's version of the truth.

I agree that the behavior of the US media in times of international crises such as these is laughably nationalistic... They learned nothing from their behavior in the run-up to the Iraq war.
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Olivier5
 
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Mon 15 Jul, 2013 02:58 pm
Joe Jackson - Forty Years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd9KpRD6QN0

Here in Berlin, people line up to get in
To wait for the end, living in glorious sin
They've looked around and now there is no looking back
To when rivers ran red, now it's the sky that grows black
Shadows are cast as two giants roam over the earth
We light a match, but what is that little flame worth

Once allies danced and sang
But it was forty years ago

Here in D.C., they talk about 'Euro-disease'
And how the French are always so damn hard to please
Motions are passed in Brussels but no one agrees
And no one walks tall, but no one gets down on their knees

Once allies laughed and drank
But it was forty years ago

Where I come from, they don't like Americans much
They think they're so loud, so tasteless and so out of touch
Stiff upper lips are curled into permanent sneers
Self-satisfied, awaiting the next forty years

Once allies cried and cheered
But it was forty years ago
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 03:38 pm
@Olivier5,
Germans make up about 16% of US citizens. The first immigrants brought education and music to America.

They are contributing members of US society.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 05:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
16% of the population of America were born in Germany?

Does that include those born of American servicemen?
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 06:30 pm
@izzythepush,
No, they include both Germany born and US born.

I'm not sure how they keep track of US soldier's children.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 08:23 pm
@izzythepush,
Here's an interesting breakdown of emigrants from Europe found on Wiki.
Quote:
European Emigration 1820-1978[31][32]
Country Total
Germany1 6,978,000
Italy 5,294,000
Great Britain 4,898,000
Ireland 4,723,000
Austria-Hungary1 4,315,000
Russia1 3,374,000
Sweden 1,272,000
Norway 856,000
France 751,000
Greece 655,000
Portugal 446,000
Denmark 364,000
Netherlands 359,000
Finland 33,000
Total 34,318,000
Note: Many returned to their country of origin
1 Includes Poles. See: Partitions of Poland


Germany was the largest emigrant group from Europe during that period.
JTT
 
  2  
Mon 15 Jul, 2013 08:41 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
I'm not sure how they keep track of US soldier's children.


It's impossible. These marauding hordes have been spraying their sperm all over the globe for over a century, CI.
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RABEL222
 
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Mon 15 Jul, 2013 08:53 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Izzy was being a horses ass.
 

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