Snowdon is a dummy

@glitterbag,

glitterbag wrote:

Well Julian Assange has a new lead now. Sorry CI, I doubt anyone thinks I'm perfect, including my late mother, and certainly not me. But please forgive me for not admiring someone supposedly working alone who defected to Russia where he finally gained the worlds attention, as he believes he richly deserves. He alone who exposes the evilness of the US. Reminds me of JTT.

But I urge you to hang onto your hat, we will be flooded with more revelations about similar 'accidents' in the future as more delusional truth tellers flock to the newspapers around the world to hand over some secret (real or imagined) to emulate Snowdon. You don't have to agree with me, but a contractor stationed in Hawaii for 10 weeks of employment who allegedly collected the entire arsenal of intelligence collection is hard to swallow. Especially for those of us actually retired from the agency.

But people like ci will be able to give you reasons why we can be tolerant of other nations doing it, but we should continue to be revolted, scornful and contemptuous of the USA for its conduct.

He hates the United States. When WWII began, they put him and his family in a detention camp...and he has never been able to get over it.

He has prospered here...but he holds the place in permanent contempt. And he hasn't got the spine to even consider the notion of moving somewhere more to his liking.

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@cicerone imposter,

In this case I think accidental and intentional are synonymous.

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@RABEL222,

You don't understand the definition of words.

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@cicerone imposter,

The word he's looking for is convenient.

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@izzythepush,

I used the word I was looking for, it mean the same as.

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@RABEL222,

And your childish thumbs down is your response. Figures.

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@glitterbag,

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You don't have to agree with me, but a contractor stationed in Hawaii for 10 weeks of employment who allegedly collected the entire arsenal of intelligence collection is hard to swallow. Especially for those of us actually retired from the agency.

Sure it is not hard to swallow not at all as a matter of fact.

Long before the internet there have been such large holes in the US government security that people had been able to walk out with large suitcases of top secret information such as Jonathan Pollard and then we have the Walker spy ring where for over 20 years a navy non-commissioned officer and his friends and family was able to give/sell the Russians the encrypted keys to our top level ciphers that control among other things our missile subs communication and such other information as to where our ocean beds sonar listening posts was located. Oh, I forgot the US overall military plans in case of nuclear war with the USSR.

Then we have the case of another college drop out working not for the government but for a contractor selling information about our spy satellite programs by the name of Christopher John Boyce for years.

None of them seems nearly as bright as Snowden.

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@cicerone imposter,

I dont do thumbs up or thumbs down CI. I do words so I dont really know what your post meant.

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@Walter Hinteler,

If this US had said it was accidental, no one would believe it, much less twice at different times with different people while they both on official business on air planes.

So, when did Merkel know about those accidental data collecting of US officials? Did she know all the while she was condemning the US for spying on her and just forgot to mention it?

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

So, when did Merkel know about those accidental data collecting of US officials? Did she know all the while she was condemning the US for spying on her and just forgot to mention it?

I don't know. As far as it has been published, it is a result of the investigations by the police/prosecution.

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@RABEL222,

It just looked suspicious! All the posts following yours were thumbed down except yours, and now your's are too!

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@glitterbag,

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Well Julian Assange has a new lead now. Sorry CI, I doubt anyone thinks I'm perfect, including my late mother, and certainly not me. But please forgive me for not admiring someone supposedly working alone who defected to Russia where he finally gained the worlds attention, as he believes he richly deserves. He alone who exposes the evilness of the US. Reminds me of JTT.

But I urge you to hang onto your hat, we will be flooded with more revelations about similar 'accidents' in the future as more delusional truth tellers flock to the newspapers around the world to hand over some secret (real or imagined) to emulate Snowdon. You don't have to agree with me, but a contractor stationed in Hawaii for 10 weeks of employment who allegedly collected the entire arsenal of intelligence collection is hard to swallow. Especially for those of us actually retired from the agency.

Your post is a breath of fresh air, Glitterbag. I admire greatly your intellectual wisdom and insight. It's always a sheer pleasure to read your posts.

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@Moment-in-Time,

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a contractor stationed in Hawaii for 10 weeks of employment

Wow. Now there's a seriously uniformed claim. Here's the fellow's actual history http://www.wired.com/2014/08/edward-snowden/

Read it. Or be stupid on purpose.

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@Moment-in-Time,

I'm not sure how you arrived at "intellectual wisdom" to admire your own opinions on this matter.

We've yet to see the "damage" Snowden's revelations about the NSA has done to US intelligence work based on mass data collection of American and our allies communication. Investigating committees have found nothing of the sort, and Snowden proved that the US government broke the laws of our country. The government has no such powers; they're supposed to uphold the Constitution - as they swore to do. The government is the criminal, not Snowden, but our three branches of government has done nothing to charge them with the crime.

That makes our government 'broken.' We're supposed to be a country of laws.

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@Moment-in-Time,

Most countries have similar NSF technology and spy on the US as well as other countries. Note how Israel was listening in on Kerry and Clinton's calls. When Pres. Obama became president, he was advised to give up his precious BlackBerry because no matter where he was the technology now existed which could listen in on his personal cell. Germany, Russia and France might be some of these nations in the forefront of such technology; Germany being caught off guard accidentally spying. All these countries profess horror, projecting a humiliating affront caused by the Snowden revelations; what a joke! Especially when many of them are doing the same thing. They just have not publicly gotten their "Edward Snowden canary" yet!

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@cicerone imposter,

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I'm not sure how you arrived at "intellectual wisdom" to admire your own opinions on this matter.

Personally, I do not expect you to understand me, CI. You have not done so yet!

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@Moment-in-Time,

Moment-in-Time wrote:

They just have not publicly gotten their "Edward Snowden canary" yet!

Well, we got it .... thanks to the US-spy, who had been caught.

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@Moment-in-Time,

We don't care what 'other countries' do with their spying. The US has our Constitution that supposed to guarantee privacy for its citizens.

These diversionary tactics are meaningless.

BTW, the people who approve of NSA's spying on Americans is not a license for all Americans to be spied upon. Some of us care about our Constitutional rights; we didn't give NSA our approval.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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Well, we got it .... thanks to the US-spy, who had been caught.

Think I read something about that, but seem to have forgotten. I've not kept up with the Snowden spy rundown. Was this about Germany expelling a CIA official in the US spy scenario? I'll google it now.

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Revellette said it best when she suggested that if it were the President of the United States saying our country had "accidentally" done this twice at different times with different people while they both were on official business on air planes...

...people like ci and Walter would be insisting that the president is lying.

They both seem to hold our country in contempt and scorn.

Hey, whatever makes them happy!

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