Snowdon is a dummy

We don't care what 'other countries' do with their spying.

The US has our Constitution that supposed to guarantee privacy for its citizens.

The US has our Constitution that supposed to guarantee privacy for its citizens.

True!

What do you mean "we"?! I do care whether I am spied on by other countries; it's something that's been going on since the knowledge each country could do so and I don't think finding about such will change anything as it's a useful utility.

To which you replied,

True!

Is it???
Does the Constitution guarantee privacy for its citizens?

...people like ci and Walter would be insisting that the president is lying.

Frank's imagination gets the best of him on many fronts; it's best to ignore his opinions that has no basis in fact or evidence.

The “custom payload” that Hacking Team uses to compromise YouTube injects malicious code into the video stream when a visitor clicks the play button. The user sees the “cute animal videos” he expects, according to Citizen Lab, but the malicious code exploits a flaw in Adobe’s Flash video player to take control of the computer.

Another attack, custom-built for use on Microsoft pages, uses Oracle’s Java technology, another common browser component, to insert a back door into a victim’s computer.[/unquote] http://wapo.st/1pD5nmo

The sort of crap going on in your computer and mine of which we would not know for a long time if ever if not for Snowden.

Frank Apisa wrote:

...people like ci and Walter would be insisting that the president is lying.

I don't know about c.i. and can't speak for him.

Where did I say that your president was lying let alone "insist" that he was lying?

Actually, in the quoted comment...I never said you did say it.

I was speculating in a hypothetical...that if...

Right?

Frank Apisa wrote:

Actually, in the quoted comment...I never said you did say it.

I was speculating in a hypothetical...that if...

Right?

Well, you must have a reason to write that I am one of those "people" who "would be insisting that the president is lying".

And this reason should be sourced by former examples of
a) that I said/wrote such,
b) that I said wrote such "insistingly".

I was speculating in a hypothetical...that if...

FOURTH AMENDMENT

The Fourth Amendment originally enforced the notion that “each man’s home is his castle”, secure from unreasonable searches and seizures of property by the government. It protects against arbitrary arrests, and is the basis of the law regarding search warrants, stop-and-frisk, safety inspections, wiretaps, and other forms of surveillance, as well as being central to many other criminal law topics and to privacy law.

The Fourth Amendment (Amendment IV) to the United States Constitution is the part of the Bill of Rights that prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures and requires any warrant to be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause.

Be careful of Frank.

Quote:

I was speculating in a hypothetical...that if...

Nobody knows when he's speculating in a hypothetical; only he does.

Revellette said it best when she suggested that if it were the President of the United States saying our country had "accidentally" done this twice at different times with different people while they both were on official business on air planes...

...people like ci and Walter would be insisting that the president is lying.

The “custom payload” that Hacking Team uses to compromise YouTube injects malicious code into the video stream when a visitor clicks the play button. The user sees the “cute animal videos” he expects, according to Citizen Lab, but the malicious code exploits a flaw in Adobe’s Flash video player to take control of the computer.

Another attack, custom-built for use on Microsoft pages, uses Oracle’s Java technology, another common browser component, to insert a back door into a victim’s computer.[/unquote] http://wapo.st/1pD5nmo

The sort of crap going on in your computer and mine of which we would not know for a long time if ever if not for Snowden.

Quote:

FOURTH AMENDMENT

The Fourth Amendment originally enforced the notion that “each man’s home is his castle”, secure from unreasonable searches and seizures of property by the government. It protects against arbitrary arrests, and is the basis of the law regarding search warrants, stop-and-frisk, safety inspections, wiretaps, and other forms of surveillance, as well as being central to many other criminal law topics and to privacy law.

Quote:

The Fourth Amendment (Amendment IV) to the United States Constitution is the part of the Bill of Rights that prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures and requires any warrant to be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause.

the fourth amendment protects against unreasonable searches and seizures