I don't refuse to read it, probably will, so do we get a third choice? What is this, a class assignment?
I'm pro Snowden, much more than less, if that matters. I'm on the slow side.
Yes. A class assignment. Please dress appropriately.
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blatham
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Fri 15 Aug, 2014 04:48 pm
@RABEL222,
Good plan. Nothing like social lubricants.
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oralloy
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Fri 15 Aug, 2014 10:19 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
Now there's an insult you don't see every day. In some cultures, this would get you drawn and quartered. Unless, of course, deficit concerns had led them to down-sizing government in which case you be drawn and halved.
We could have used your joking and humor in the Amanda Knox thread a few years back.
Lost cause now I suspect. It's a war zone.
Maybe a few centuries after the war is over, a few tendrils of life will poke their way through the craters.....
The German Federal Intelligence Service(BND) has Turkey as a reconnaissance objective since 2009, according to SPIEGEL.
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry was at least once intercepted by the German side during the last years.
Re war zone, it doesn't seem that much different than years ago though perhaps my time away changes perspective. Other than one or two individuals whom I've put on "ignore", folks here are good-hearted. I think it's a tendril-rich environment.
Re war zone, it doesn't seem that much different than years ago though perhaps my time away changes perspective.
The Amanda Knox thread is much worse than a2k in general as far as "hope for civility" goes.
But unless you have a TARDIS, there's no point in trying. The thread might have been saved years ago. Now it is a wasteland of cruelty and malice.
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Walter Hinteler
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Sat 16 Aug, 2014 05:13 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
German intelligence services eavesdropped on calls made by US secretary of state John Kerry and his predecessor Hillary Clinton, Der Spiegel has reported.
The German foreign intelligence agency, BND, tapped a satellite phone conversation Kerry made in 2013 and also recorded a conversation between Clinton and former UN secretary-general Kofi Annan a year earlier, according to the magazine.
The three officials were not directly targeted with phone calls collected by accident within the context of other operations, according to the report.
It also cites a confidential 2009 BND document listing Nato member Turkey as a target for German intelligence gathering. Neither the BND or the US embassy in Berlin have responded to requests to comment on the report.
Earlier this year Der Spiegel reported that John Kerry's phone was tapped by Israeli spies during Middle East peace talks last year, who listened to his conversations with officials from Israel, Palestinian territories and Arab states.
The Israeli government then used the information obtained in negotiations to try to reach a settlement.
German intelligence services eavesdropped on calls made by US secretary of state John Kerry and his predecessor Hillary Clinton, Der Spiegel has reported.
The German foreign intelligence agency, BND, tapped a satellite phone conversation Kerry made in 2013 and also recorded a conversation between Clinton and former UN secretary-general Kofi Annan a year earlier, according to the magazine.
The three officials were not directly targeted with phone calls collected by accident within the context of other operations, according to the report.
It also cites a confidential 2009 BND document listing Nato member Turkey as a target for German intelligence gathering. Neither the BND or the US embassy in Berlin have responded to requests to comment on the report.
Earlier this year Der Spiegel reported that John Kerry's phone was tapped by Israeli spies during Middle East peace talks last year, who listened to his conversations with officials from Israel, Palestinian territories and Arab states.
The Israeli government then used the information obtained in negotiations to try to reach a settlement.
Good for Germany and good for Israel. The intelligence agencies of both countries were doing what they are supposed to do...doing what they were formed to do.
It is annoying...I will grant you that.
But this is the world has always worked...and it is the way the world will continue to work.
Good for Germany and good for Israel. The intelligence agencies of both countries were doing what they are supposed to do...doing what they were formed to do.
Well, I don't know about Israel, but here Merkel gets quite a bid pressure about it - some heads will roll, I suppose.
Good for Germany and good for Israel. The intelligence agencies of both countries were doing what they are supposed to do...doing what they were formed to do.
Well, I don't know about Israel, but here Merkel gets quite a bid pressure about it - some heads will roll, I suppose.
I doubt it...but we will see.
I certainly would not be surprised, though, if anyone involved in getting the information out to the media were prosecuted.
