Snowdon is a dummy

@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Snowden leaks spur new crop of secure phones, communications
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Aug 5 (Reuters) - Public concerns about the U.S. government's secretive surveillance programs exposed by Edward Snowden have spawned a slew of encryption products and privacy services that aim to make electronic spying more difficult.
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There ya go.

The NSA did it to stimulate the economy...and it is working.

New inventions...new buying...new jobs. It doesn't get much better than this.

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Obviously many people here feel our intelligence services should only check on people who mean us harm!

Whew...this beyond comic!

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

There ya go.

The NSA did it to stimulate the economy...and it is working.

New inventions...new buying...new jobs. It doesn't get much better than this.

From that above linked source:

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Civil liberties enthusiasts have welcomed the proliferation of new privacy-protecting software and services, but some law enforcement and intelligence agents are concerned that they make it more difficult for agents to intercept communications.

"It's a significant problem, and it's continuing to get worse," Amy S. Hess, executive assistant director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, told the Washington Post. An FBI spokeswoman declined to elaborate.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter when I was a young boy and then a teenager congressmen was claiming that there was secret communists under every second bed in the US.

Thousands in the state department alone.

In any case the numbers for example given for all the Al Qaeda branches seems ridiculous on their face.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

There ya go.

The NSA did it to stimulate the economy...and it is working.

New inventions...new buying...new jobs. It doesn't get much better than this.

From that above linked source:

Quote:
Civil liberties enthusiasts have welcomed the proliferation of new privacy-protecting software and services, but some law enforcement and intelligence agents are concerned that they make it more difficult for agents to intercept communications.

"It's a significant problem, and it's continuing to get worse," Amy S. Hess, executive assistant director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, told the Washington Post. An FBI spokeswoman declined to elaborate.

Yup, the revelations of Snowden may (probably, will) make law enforcement and intelligence gathering much more difficult.

But...there still are people who would like to see him get a ticker tape parade up the Canyon of Heroes.

Mugalazonga!

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@Walter Hinteler,

Their list totals around 600,000, but they look into over 300 million private lives communication in the US and probably another 300 million in other friendly countries. That's about 99.999% wasted searches. Then they wonder why it's costing so much in personnel, equipment, and money.

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@cicerone imposter,

I love the fact that the NSA storage site in Utah have so many hard drives on site to store all the information they are taping off the internet, that they are running into problems getting enough water to cool all the hardware.

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Yup...the geniuses among us suggest that our intelligence agencies focus only on people who intend us harm.

Brilliant!

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@Frank Apisa,

BRILLIANT INDEED! Oh, and I'm not a genius. Just someone with a little bit of common sense.

FACT: EVERYBODY IS NOT A TERRORIST.

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@Eliusa,

Eliusa wrote:

I think I was thinking more about foreigners who come here for free cheese and even when they get it all - they are still bitching.

If you want cheese, free or otherwise, you're bound to bitch if you go to America. Go here instead.

http://www.cheddargorge.co.uk/upload/content/CliffTopWalks_Big.jpg

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@cicerone imposter,

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Another remark: media attention for terrorism doesn’t correspond to the importance of terrorism. There isn’t really a lot of terrorism in the world. As a cause of death, it’s ridiculously rare: in 2012, more Americans died crushed by their TVs or furniture (16) than from terrorism (10). And it was about the same in earlier years (with the exception of 2001).

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

BRILLIANT INDEED! Oh, and I'm not a genius. Just someone with a little bit of common sense.

Sounds to me like "very little."

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FACT: EVERYBODY IS NOT A TERRORIST.

Wow...you like facts of that sort. Okay...FACT: NOT EVERYBODY IS OVER 6' TALL.

Anyway...send a list to the NSA of all the people who intend to harm us...and maybe they will leave everyone else alone.

Just be sure the list contains the name of everyone who intends us harm.

You might want to include your real name, ci. You sound like someone who would like to overthrow our government.

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@cicerone imposter,

Motor vehicle deaths by year.

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2001[2] 42,196
2002 43,005
2003 42,884
2004 42,836
2005 43,510
2006 42,708
2007 41,259
2008 37,423
2009 33,883
2010 [2] 32,999
2011[4] 32,479
2012[1] 33,561

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Quote:
Another remark: media attention for terrorism doesn’t correspond to the importance of terrorism. There isn’t really a lot of terrorism in the world. As a cause of death, it’s ridiculously rare: in 2012, more Americans died crushed by their TVs or furniture (16) than from terrorism (10). And it was about the same in earlier years (with the exception of 2001).

Okay Mr. Not a Genius...since you stated "there isn't really a lot of terrorism in the world"...why did you give us just the number of deaths by terrorism in America.

Are you actually saying there are very few deaths by terrorism IN THE WORLD?

And should we wait until our deaths get to those totals before taking action...or does it make more sense to start now?

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@Frank Apisa,

The US is the country nosing into everybody's private lives.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

The US is the country nosing into everybody's private lives.

You can help, ci.

Give a list to the NSA of all the people in the world intending harm to the US (and any other countries)...and perhaps they can stop snooping the way they are.

Include the names of all people who express extreme dislike of our government...because those people should receive at least some attention.

Okay?

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@Walter Hinteler,

It would seems that all anyone need to do is to go to such sites as Inspire magazine to get yourself on one of those watch lists.

Off hand my guess that for every would be terrorists who check that site and magazine out there are hundreds/thousands doing so out of curiosity.

Including the people who created and edit this wikipedia article quoted below.

Quote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspire_(magazine)

United States of America

The magazine is not banned or necessarily illegal. But in May 2013, U.S. Attorney Barry Grissom told students during an event at Wichita State University that authorities monitor extremists groups' websites, including Inspire magazine.
"Do not go to this website," Grissom said. "You will be on our list." [56]

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@cicerone imposter,

It helps to have lived during some of the history they teach in schools today. We can separate the BS from the facts.

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@Frank Apisa,

So you think just because I live in the U S of A I have an obligation to praise every politician that the citizens voted into office no matter how crooked they are? Look around you Frank. The citizens dont run this country, big money runs the country and elects the politicians you think the citizens elect. Am I bitching? Your damned right I am and I am trying to convince other citizens what a screwing they are getting by electing the same crooks year after year.

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@RABEL222,

The biggest problem is the standardized testing in our schools. They forgot about creativity, sports and the arts. Educators still have not learned that students do not have the same interests nor the same level of learning by age.

"Facts" can be very elusive, because our perceptions are based on our own subjective reality. I can't explain it, but it boggles my mind to see so many Americans who still believes Obama was born in Kenya, and that he's a "socialist."

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