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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

Keep lying.

Absolutely nothing wrong with my sentence...or my use of the word "read."

Don't know why you want to insist there is...but that is your error, not mine.

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@Olivier5,

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Like what?

I am not going to give that information as while completely legal in the US you might find yourself on some lists that would be unpleasant to be on.

The government keep finding ways around the bill of rights beginning with the first amendment.

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@BillRM,

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I am not going to give that information as while completely legal in the US you might find yourself on some lists that would be unpleasant to be on

To my knowledge, the types of computer files that can get you arrested in Europe are: nazi propaganda, files links to terrorist groups, and pedophile pics.

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@Olivier5,

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pedophile pics.

Now that Japan had finally make child porn illegal to own I off hand do not know of anywhere such material is not illegal.

However all kind of other material are illegal in some countries but not others such as in the UK S&M and other types of "extreme" porn even with fully consenting adults are illegal.

Next any "hate" material including books it does not need to be Nazis material to be illegal in a large number of the EU nations.

An of course any material related to terrorists groups and or building explosive or other deadly devices making some US Army manuals illegal in some nations.

All of the above except for child porn and far more are protected under the first amendment of the US Constitution except strangely enough some cartoons drawings of "underage" figures having sex.

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@Olivier5,

UK police are arresting people for having porn that have nothing at all to do with child porn but is call extreme porn.

Such porn is legal to have in all other Western nations.

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http://www.itv.com/news/central/story/2014-03-14/three-teachers-arrested-over-extreme-porn-allegations/

11:35 AM, FRI 14 MAR 2014
Schools 'extremely concerned' over porn arrests
A trust which runs two Birmingham schools has said it is "extremely concerned" to hear three members of staff had been arrested on suspicion of possessing extreme pornography.

The men, aged 32, 36 and 37, have been given police bail after being arrested at their homes in Birmingham and Wolverhampton yesterday.

One of the men arrested works at Park View School in Alum Rock, Birmingham
One of the men arrested works at Park View School in Alum Rock, Birmingham Credit: Google Maps
The Park View Educational Trust, which runs Golden Hillock School in Sparkhill, and Park View School in Alum Rock where the men worked, said it was cooperating fully with police in the investigation.

In a statement, the trust said:

We are extremely concerned to learn about the arrests of three teaching staff employed by the Park View Educational Trust.

The police have informed us that the arrests are in connection with suspicion of possession of extreme pornography.

While the nature of the pornography is described as extreme there is absolutely no suggestion from the police that it involved minors.

We would like to reassure parents that we are co-operating fully with the police to support their investigations into individuals at both schools.

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@BillRM,

Any excuse to talk about your favourite topic you sick nonce. This disgusting material which you champion is not victim free.

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The parents of a teenager murdered by a friend who was obsessed with violent internet porn told yesterday of their anger at how easy it is to find extreme content online.

Georgia Williams, 17, agreed to pose for Jamie Reynolds with a rope around her neck for a ‘fantasy photoshoot’, but he left her hanging and took photographs of her as she died.

Yesterday, her parents Lynette, 52, and Stephen, 58, a detective constable, spoke for the first time about the role extreme pornography played in their daughter’s murder.

They said Reynolds, now 23, had been viewing depraved acts online even as their daughter, who attended college with him, walked to his home 90 minutes before she died.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2682650/Parents-blame-violent-porn-murder-daughter-17-Couple-tell-anger-easy-extreme-content-online.html

This is not an isolated incident. I'm proud to live in a country where the rights of women and children not to be tortured, raped and murdered, take priority over the rights of sick pieces of **** like you to watch women being tortured, raped and murdered.

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@izzythepush,

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Any excuse to talk about your favourite topic you sick nonce. This disgusting material which you champion is not victim free.

LOL so any literature or movies that could perhaps cause sick people to act out should be ban?

Only G rates Disney movies and books should by allow?

Let see Robert Heinlein book "Stranger in a strange land" and some Beatles music might had help shoved Charles Manson to have his group go on a killing spree so they should be ban?

All murder movies and books should be ban as sick people had been known to copy them in real life?

**** I forgot the bible that there is no question had resulted in millions of murders over history and have stories of incest and even cutting up a woman and sending her bodies parts to the Jewish tribes as a call for war.

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@izzythepush,

I'm sure, Bill gets the turn to his favourite topic on any thread about any subject.

The Intercept reports that NSA provides financial assistance, weapons and signals intelligence to Israel. Additionally, Canadian, British and Jordanian signals intelligence is also shared with Israel.
This intelligence relates to Palestinian targets, including those in Gaza, according to the Snowden-documents.

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@Walter Hinteler,

An here I been a strong supporter of your stands on this thread only to find you are acting in the same manner as that fool Izzy!!!!!!!!!

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@BillRM,

No, sick torture porn showing people being tortured for sexual pleasure should be banned. Nobody has spoken about banning horror films, literature or music. We're talking about exploitative pornographic material that has been directly linked to real life murder. The women in these films are exploited, women, (and it's almost always women) desperate for money for whatever reason, not even fully aware of what they were signing up for, or pressurised by a domineering male figure, so the notion of consent is so very loose as to be almost meaningless.

You have to ask yourself what sort of sick individual would want to watch such material anyway.

In the case I posted, the victim consented to being filmed with a noose around her neck, not to being killed, but it probably fits in with your definition of consent which is so very loose as to be almost meaningless.

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Newly disclosed documents provided by Snowden ... ... ... see my post above ... ...

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@izzythepush,

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No, sick torture porn showing people being tortured for sexual pleasure should be banned. Nobody has spoken about banning horror films,

You mean S&M that millions if not ten of millions willingly take part in around the world?

You know the kind of life style that Hawkeye and his wife is involved in by his own words?

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In the case I posted, the victim consented to being filmed with a noose around her neck, not to being killed,

A case of a sick man that would not had harm a fly by your logic but for him seeing some S&M films.

God only know what will happen once the movie fifty shades of grays is released both in the US and for some strange reason being allowed to be released in the UK.

I guess $$$$$$$$$ talk louder then some silly law even in the UK.

I am sure in any case that those teachers was likely within days of killing either an adult of a child if the police had not shown up in the nick of time.

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@BillRM,

No, I don't mean S&M stuff most of which is legal over here. You know exactly what I mean, which is why you tried change the subject to The Beatles and Heinlein.

BILLRM wrote:

You know the kind of life style that Hawkeye and his wife is involved in by his own words?

That would be the same lifestyle that allowed Hawkeye's children to be raped by a paedophile babysitter.

BillRM wrote:

A case of a sick man that would not had harm a fly by your logic but for him seeing some S&M films.

You obviously didn't read the post. This sick man murdered his girlfriend, she thought she was just consenting to having a noose around her neck, not being hanged.

Try to read the posts before you start posting your usual gibberish.

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@Walter Hinteler,

This does not surprise me at all. I do have a gripe about the US's obsessive loyalty to Israel.

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@izzythepush,

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No, I don't mean S&M stuff most of which is legal over here

Wrong and I mean wrong............both the filming and the acts that result in any harm consensus or not is illegal in merry old England.

Porn films showing pretend rapes and such sexual acts as fisking is also illegal in merry old england.

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his sick man murdered his girlfriend, she thought she was just consenting to having a noose around her neck, not being hanged.

So as how is arresting people who have S@M materials going to stop or even slow down nuts finding ways to murder others?

Would it be fifty shades of grey fault it after a couple saw the movies the boyfriend had talked his girlfriend into being all tied up and then he killed her?

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@Olivier5,

CI thinks no matter who is going to govern the country, the country is not going to get better. Our government is made up from our people. It is up to us to change it. If enough people do not like it, it will be changed. In fact, there are some changes being proposed right now.

I would not think it is my place to tell someone they should leave, perhaps CI likes his neighborhood or his friends and can manage well enough with the government to stay. However, there is really is no difference between the government, which comprises the President on down to the local governments, and the country. Without a system of government in place, there would be no United States. There would just people who live in various places in the this large area. If there is difference, I wish one of you would explain it in terms understandable.

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@revelette2,

Actually, I think, in any other (democratic) country it's the people who vote persons in or out of a government: we "elect [our parliament] in general, direct, free, equal and secret elections" - and thus get the of changing our government.

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@Walter Hinteler,

To be honest I am not sure what you are saying or what difference it makes. The persons who are elected, are people who are citizens of said country, are they not? So that means, it is truly is, "We the people." We are the government. Why is that so hard to understand?

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@revelette2,

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CI thinks no matter who is going to govern the country, the country is not going to get better.

The problem is that after voting for a change due to special interests and other factors we do not get any changes.

We who was worrying about the big brother state voted in a President that not only stated he would get control of the intelligent agencies but had a history up to then of being unfriendly to them.

Beside the fact he was at one point a constitutional professor of all things.

We then found out in this area at least he was far worst then the President before him!!!

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@BillRM,

We also have a history of more then once voting for people who stated we are not going to get involved in a war and after election got us into a war.

Then we have the reverse problem of voting someone who stated that they was going to get us out of a conflict and then took four years to do so.

Somehow the feeling is that elections and changing the faces of our leaders from time to time is smoke and mirror and the elite/special interests are running the show behind the scene no matter who get elected.

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