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Snowdon is a dummy

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 11:19 am
Some people just don't understand the word, TRUST.
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1trust noun \ˈtrəst\
: belief that someone or something is reliable, good, honest, effective, etc.

: an arrangement in which someone's property or money is legally held or managed by someone else or by an organization (such as a bank) for usually a set period of time

: an organization that results from the creation of a trust

Full Definition of TRUST

1
a : assured reliance on the character, ability, strength, or truth of someone or something
b : one in which confidence is placed
2
a : dependence on something future or contingent : hope
b : reliance on future payment for property (as merchandise) delivered : credit <bought furniture on trust>
3
a : a property interest held by one person for the benefit of another
b : a combination of firms or corporations formed by a legal agreement; especially : one that reduces or threatens to reduce competition
4
archaic : trustworthiness
5
a (1) : a charge or duty imposed in faith or confidence or as a condition of some relationship (2) : something committed or entrusted to one to be used or cared for in the interest of another
b : responsible charge or office
c : care, custody <the child committed to her trust>
— in trust
: in the care or possession of a trustee
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Examples of TRUST

Our relationship is founded on mutual love and trust.
His lies and deception shattered my trust in him.
She has no trust in the security of online banking.
He created a trust for his children.
The property will be held in trust until her 18th birthday.
laws limiting the formation of trusts
A hope is more than resolve, and it is based on trust in a divine faithfulness that operates not only within history, but also beyond history. —John Polkinghorne, Times Literary Supplement, 3 May 2002
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Origin of TRUST

Middle English, probably of Scandinavian origin; akin to Old Norse traust trust; akin to Old English trēowe faithful — more at true
First Known Use: 13th century
Related to TRUST

Synonyms
confidence, credence, faith, stock
Antonyms
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Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 11:20 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

It really would be naïve to think that members of the Israeli intelligence service would not spy on the mobile phones of the US Secretary of State and other members of the US-Government and Administration.
That's what is done between closest allies and friends!
(And that's the lesson I've learnt from Frank.)



So...if Angela Merkel was absolutely certain that the United States would not spy on her phone...she should have felt safe in using it???

What are you people thinking of?
Frank Apisa
 
  2  
Sun 3 Aug, 2014 11:24 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Hi Rev. Haven't seen your response to the questions below. Would you mind clarifying your position?

Olivier5 wrote:

Quote:
All Frank is saying is, from he has gathered in reading several posts of CI's is that CI thinks no matter who is elected to run the government, this country has no chance to get better than it is right now. Like there is nothing we can do to make it better so why bother to vote because no one can make it better. 

That's not ALL what Frank is saying. That's in fact what CI is saying. What Frank is saying is that, because ci thinks so, HE SHOULD LEAVE THE COUNTRY. This is what I have an issue with. He is also saying that whoever dislike the way the country is governed, HATES THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE.

Do you agree with Frank on those two points, rev?



I would hope that Revelette realizes that your characterization of what I was saying to ci...IS WARPED...and false, Olivier. I've already covered the subject...and the fact that you are mischaracterizing what I have said.
Olivier5
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 11:39 am
@Frank Apisa,
Run, little chicken, run away from your statements... :-)
Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 11:45 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Run, little chicken, run away from your statements... :-)


I am not chicken...and the last thing most A2Kers think...is that I run away from anything. If anything, I am willing to stick with my position more than makes them comfortable.

In any case, I explained why your characterization of what I have been saying right along and consistently...is nonsense and warped.

But you do not have the integrity to acknowledge that you have mischaracterized what I have been saying.

So the last thing I want you to do is to run away, Olivier. I want you to keep digging. I truly enjoy talking to you when you are in one of these holes you seem to love so much. Wink
Olivier5
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 11:50 am
@Frank Apisa,
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There may be a reason he did it, Olivier. Just as there may be a reason Merkel did it. Ever hear of disinformation?

Oh soooo smart... And it worked out soooo well in the end, with peace in the Middle East and all that... Kerry skillfully manipulated Bibi, didn't he?


BTW, you misspelled "heard", Frank. Is the heat getting to you? ;-)
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 11:51 am
@Olivier5,
A bank makes loans to many people and companies - some in huge amounts. They sign a contract that the loan will be repaid. As long as the payments are made on time, no other intrusion into the individual or company is necessary. It's called TRUST. Without trust, it would be impossible for any transaction to occur whether it's a marriage, politics, religion, contracts, trade organizations, employers-workers, city - residence, federal - state, government - citizens, or any other relationship based on trust. It should not be necessary to spy on the other to maintain any trust. We all recognize when trust is broken without the need to spy on each other.
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Olivier5
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 11:54 am
@Frank Apisa,
Keep lying... That hole is all yours.
BillRM
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 12:05 pm
@oralloy,
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got a warrant to look at my data, they would quickly determine that their suspicions were groundless and be on their way.


First it always amazed me that you love the second amendment but not the fourth or the fifth amendments.

Second there are hundred of thousands of federal and state laws and far more government regulations with the full force of law. It is almost impossible to know for sure if there is nothing on your hard drives that could be used as a weapon against you by government agents.

An example that come to mind is that millions of people who purchase DRM protected materials such as ebooks and videos and wish to be able to access them on devices that the DRM protection will not allow have illegal removed that protection.

It does not in fact matter if you had purchase the materials in a legal manner and never share the unprotected versions with anyone the act of removing the DRM is a federal crime and even having software tools do so so is a federal felony.

That is just one example of how a government acting in bad faith could find ways to charge someone they wish to go after, if they can gain full access to their hard drives.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 12:08 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Quote:
There may be a reason he did it, Olivier. Just as there may be a reason Merkel did it. Ever hear of disinformation?

Oh soooo smart... And it worked out soooo well in the end, with peace in the Middle East and all that... Kerry skillfully manipulated Bibi, didn't he?


BTW, you misspelled "heard", Frank. Is the heat getting to you? ;-)


I did not misspell "heard", Olivier...I correctly spelled "hear."

Try to keep up.
Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 12:09 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Keep lying... That hole is all yours.


I don't think so. You are the guy digging...so you own it. Wink
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BillRM
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 12:58 pm
@oralloy,
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If I did use cloud storage, I'm sure if the government ever suspected me of anything and got a warrant to look at my data, they would quickly determine that their suspicions were groundless and be on their way.


To me an interesting side note is if you are traveling international even to Canada you can run into interesting problems.

Right now I have 100 percent legal files in the US on my computers that could get me a prison sentence in either the UK or Canada if I did not wiped them off before traveling and they was found at the border of Canada or the UK.

I just happen to come across that information but how many others with similar completely legal files in the US are not aware of the possible problems in crossing borders.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 01:27 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
So...if Angela Merkel was absolutely certain that the United States would not spy on her phone...she should have felt safe in using it???

What are you people thinking of?
"They people" thought of a razzia at Merkel's phone provider, a stop of all consultations with the USA, a "non-attack declaration" by the USA ... according to tomorrow's print edition of Der Spiegel.
Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 01:46 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
So...if Angela Merkel was absolutely certain that the United States would not spy on her phone...she should have felt safe in using it???

What are you people thinking of?
"They people" thought of a razzia at Merkel's phone provider, a stop of all consultations with the USA, a "non-attack declaration" by the USA ... according to tomorrow's print edition of Der Spiegel.


I do not understand what you are saying here, Walter.

But it does not seem to be an answer to my question...the one you quoted me asking.
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Olivier5
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 04:38 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Have you ever hearD of grammar, Frank?
Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 04:46 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Have you ever hearD of grammar, Frank?


My use of "hear" was correct in the sentence you tried to "correct", Olivier.

Sorry you are unable to understand that.
Olivier5
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 05:13 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Ever hearD of intellectual honesty, Frank? Smile
Olivier5
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 05:16 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Right now I have 100 percent legal files in the US on my computers that could get me a prison sentence in either the UK or Canada if I did not wiped them off before traveling and they was found at the border of Canada or the UK.

Like what?
Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 05:22 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Ever hearD of intellectual honesty, Frank? Smile


Yup.

And the sentence you tried to correct...was correct. There was no error.

So why not practice some intellectual honesty and acknowledge that, Olivier?
Olivier5
 
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Sun 3 Aug, 2014 05:35 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Keep lying.
 

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