Snowdon is a dummy

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I am not in favor of a strong, overbearing state.

I think you are. You want the state to check your and my emails and phone calls every day... That's overbearing in my mind, and in the mind of the founding fathers.

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Why would it be an honorable thing for me to move out of my country?

I'm just turning the table on you, Frank. But I do think your statement to CI that the honorable thing for him to do would be to leave the country applies to you much better than to him. He is a better American than you are.

In any case, I am not talking about whether he is a good American or not...I am talking about the fact that he seems to find so much wrong with being here.

Frank Apisa wrote:

In any case, I am not talking about whether he is a good American or not...I am talking about the fact that he seems to find so much wrong with being here.

Just because someone likes to travel (like c.i. does) and because someone has different opinions than you, Frank, and the US-government ... this makes him/her not liking to live in the U.S.A.?

he seems to find so much wrong with being here.

http://oti.newamerica.net/sites/newamerica.net/files/policydocs/Surveilance_Costs_Final.p

New America’s Open Technology Institute
July 2014
Policy Paper
Surveillance Costs:
The NSA’s Impact on the Economy,
Internet Freedom & Cybersecurity

Once Frank latches onto an idea, no matter how ignorant, he'll push it ad nauseam in believing that repetition will eventually make it true.

Frank has no ability to change his mind, no matter how much facts are presented.

He now thinks that because I don't agree with how our government is 'not' working, that I want to leave this country - the country of my birth, and the country that provided me and my family the comforts and above average standard of living we have enjoyed most of our lives.

Frank can't see the changes,

...but I can, and I say our government is broken and lousy! It's the worst performance rating of congress against our black president during my life time. If anyone care to notice, I've given Obama credit where due, and lambasted him when I felt he fell short as our president. That's called "free speech."

You offer opinions as if it's the only truth. LOL

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/01/world/senate-intelligence-commitee-cia-interrogation-report.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — An internal investigation by the Central Intelligence Agency has found that its officers improperly penetrated a computer network used by the Senate Intelligence Committee in preparing its report on the C.I.A.'s detention and interrogation program.

In a statement issued Thursday morning, a C.I.A. spokesman said that agency’s inspector general had concluded that C.I.A. officers had acted inappropriately by gaining access to the computers.

The statement said that John O. Brennan, the C.I.A. director, had apologized to the two senior members of the Senate Intelligence Committee and that he would set up an internal accountability board to review the matter. The board will be led by former Senator Evan Bayh, Democrat of Indiana.

The statement gave almost no specifics about the findings of the report, written by David Buckley, the agency’s inspector general.

Officials said there was a tense meeting earlier this week when Mr. Brennan briefed the two senators — Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California and Saxby Chambliss, Republican of Georgia. The officials said Ms. Feinstein had confronted Mr. Brennan about past public statements on the issue, in which he defended the agency’s actions.

When the C.I.A.'s monitoring of the committee became public in March, Mr. Brennan said, “When the facts come out on this, I think a lot of people who are claiming that there has been this tremendous sort of spying and monitoring and hacking will be proved wrong.”

Last year, the C.I.A. gained access to a computer network, reserved solely for Senate investigators working at an agency facility in Northern Virginia, after officials suspected the intelligence committee had improperly obtained an internal C.I.A. report about the detention program, which is now defunct.

Shortly after the C.I.A. action was made public, Ms. Feinstein gave a blistering speech on the floor of the Senate accusing the agency of infringing on the committee’s role as overseer. The C.I.A. statement was first reported by McClatchy.

Shortly after the C.I.A. action was made public, Ms. Feinstein gave a blistering speech on the floor of the Senate accusing the agency of infringing on the committee’s role as overseer. The C.I.A. statement was first reported by McClatchy.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein defends NSA and need for intelligence gathering
February 19, 2014|By Seema Mehta

Senator Feinstein was in full support of the NSA's mass data collection, but gets upset when shes' the target.

Weekly walks from Griesheim to nearby US Dagger Complex lead way in multi-generational protest against digital surveillance
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According to reports in the German media, the Dagger Complex is the central base for US surveillance operations in Europe, containing the NSA's military branch as well as the "European Cryptologic Centre" in which several hundred NSA employees collect and analyse data with the help of tools such as the notorious Xkeyscore programme.

Usually, Bangert's spotters carry at least a pair of binoculars and a couple of surveillance cameras made of cardboard. Registration numbers of cars parked at the facility are logged, but actual sightings of NSA employees are rare: "Spies are shy creatures," Bangert said.

On Snowden's birthday, the walkers brought along cake in order to "lure the spies out of their hiding holes". When the owners of the Dagger Complex complained to police about the rubbish left behind by the protesters, they brought rakes and brushes and offered to clean up inside the complex.

For the anniversary, the organisers built a "bed for Snowden", as a symbolic reminder of their ongoing campaign for Germany to offer asylum to the US whistleblower.

So far, Bangert's only interaction with those working in the Dagger Complex is the time a departing employee wound down his car window and called him a "dumbass ************".

"My aim is to get on the NSA's nerves whenever I can," Bangert told the Guardian. "And I think they are pretty irritated at the moment."

The protesters include students in their late teens as well as pensioners. Nadine, a 20-year-old from Lower Saxony, has been joining the protest once a month since last autumn. "Most people prefer to complain from the comfort of their sofa," she said, "but here people are actually doing something to voice their complaints."

Frieder Haug, a 67-year-old retired priest who is also a member of the activist network Attac, said he joined the walks because he felt the protests against digital surveillance had managed to bring together different people in the way the peace movement had in the 1980s.

"Originally, I didn't want to join Attac because it was only full of people my age. Now there is finally a new generation of young people who are not only politicised, but also stubborn in getting their point across."

Bangert said he planned to continue the nature walks indefinitely. "Over the last 12 months, in spite of all the politicians expressing their outrage, absolutely nothing has changed. So of course we have to keep on going".

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/07/31/microsoft-email-jurisdiction-ireland/13423467/

SAN FRANCISCO –Microsoft must hand over email stored on servers in Ireland to comply with a U.S. warrant in a narcotics case, a federal judge ruled Thursday.

The ruling, by U.S. District Judge Loretta Preska in Manhattan, is the latest in an ongoing battle over who has jurisdiction over users' data in an era when it could be stored anywhere in the world.

Preska argued that because the servers are run by Microsoft, a U.S. company, where they are located doesn't matter.

The case is part of a broad push by the tech industry to get lawmakers to update laws that govern data stored in the cloud.

"The cloud" refers to information that isn't stored on a customer's computer, but on servers that could be anywhere in the world, accessible via the internet.

In an op-ed in The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday, Brad Smith, Microsoft's general counsel, said the basic issue is whether customer emails belong to the customer or the customer and the company that manages the email service.

Microsoft says that the emails were stored in Dublin, Ireland in a data center used for some of its customers outside of the United States.

Microsoft and other tech companies say that email stored on computer servers overseas can't be obtained through warrants because warrants don't reach outside of the United States.

Microsoft plans to appeal.

"The only issue that was certain this morning was that the District Court's decision would not represent the final step in this process. We will appeal promptly and continue to advocate that people's email deserves strong privacy protection in the U.S. and around the world," Smith said in a statement.