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Snowdon is a dummy

 
 
Olivier5
 
  2  
Mon 14 Jul, 2014 06:21 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

However, did I miss something? Are you the person who spent years as a US citizen in the US intell community working with our partners hammering out agreements, and on board to help oversee the transition into new compatible equipment?

Yeeaah... you must have missed something. I never worked as a spook, for nobody. I'm the guy you had a spar with recently, on a thread about Frank's ignorance, remember?

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I'm unaware that France has the same relashionship with the US anywhere close to the one between Germany and the US. Other than the US Embassy, I'm unaware of any Americans stationed anywhere in France in any sort of partnership. That might have been
beyond my pay grade, but I'm pretty sure the French get involved only when they receive an engraved invitation.

Invitation for what? Intelligence is not a garden party. From what I know, there's a good collaboration between the US and the French on terrorism-related intel. We sent you guys forewarning of 9/11 for instance. On other topics, the relation is more competitive.
glitterbag
 
  1  
Mon 14 Jul, 2014 06:28 pm
@Olivier5,
Forgot about whatever you said about Frank.

You're right, intell isn't a garden party. Is it too late to send a thank you note to France for helping us dodge that 9/11 bullet?
JTT
 
  1  
Mon 14 Jul, 2014 06:31 pm
@glitterbag,
You talk like a really bad USA spy movie, gbag.
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glitterbag
 
  1  
Mon 14 Jul, 2014 06:38 pm
@Olivier5,
Did you start that thread about Frank? Please don't make me look thru all the crap that gets printed here. All I remember is whoever started it was an asshole, I don't remember you starting a thread as an asshole, so I'm assuming it was one of the other ones.
JTT
 
  1  
Mon 14 Jul, 2014 06:40 pm
@glitterbag,
or the worst USA spy movie ever made.
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glitterbag
 
  2  
Mon 14 Jul, 2014 07:36 pm
@Olivier5,
Well, well, well. You ARE the author of the personal attack thread. Congratulations, and a tip of the beret to a man who has joined the ranks of those rare individuals who have authored threads attacking Sentanta, Firefly and not to slight your poor behaviour, the one devoted to Frank.

Thank you for reminding me of your appalling lack of civility. I wish I had remembered earlier. You are a waste of my time, I care not to engage with men of little dignity. I don't know if this is simply your online persona, but whatever it is, you behave like an asshole.

And again, our sincere thanks to your government for the Herculean efforts to warn the US. If you hadn't brought it up, I'd swear it was just a brilliant Monday morning quarterback move. Let me guess, the Saudi's tipped off your president but the lines to the White House were busy, so everybody just assumed the Americans were on top of it. Big Gallic shrug. Thanks!
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Olivier5
 
  2  
Mon 14 Jul, 2014 07:42 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

You're right, intell isn't a garden party. Is it too late to send a thank you note to France for helping us dodge that 9/11 bullet?


Two articles for you, Aunt Literbag. One in French, with two key paragraphs galantly google-translated for you...

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Nine reports on the subject [AQ & the US] between September 2000 and August 2001. Including an executive summary of five pages, entitled "Projected hijacking by radical Islamists" dated January 5, 2001 ...! Eight months before September 11, the DGSE describes tactical discussions from early 2000 between bin Laden and his Taliban allies, about a project to hijack U.S. planes.

[...] In its note, the DGSE leaves no doubt that al-Qaida will attempt to realize its act of piracy against an American aircraft: "In October 2000, Osama bin Laden attended a meeting in Afghanistan during which the decision in principle to carry out this operation has been maintained. " The note is dated Jan. 5, 2001, the dice are thrown, the French know ... And they are not alone.

As all information referring risk against U.S. interests, the note was transmitted to the CIA ...


http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2007/04/16/ce-que-les-services-francais-savaient-de-ben-laden-en-2000_896448_3224.html


And one op-ed from the NYT:

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The Deafness Before the Storm

By KURT EICHENWALD
SEPTEMBER 10, 2012

IT was perhaps the most famous presidential briefing in history.

On Aug. 6, 2001, President George W. Bush received a classified review of the threats posed by Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network, Al Qaeda. That morning’s “presidential daily brief” — the top-secret document prepared by America’s intelligence agencies — featured the now-infamous heading: “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” A few weeks later, on 9/11, Al Qaeda accomplished that goal.

[...] I have read excerpts from many of them, along with other recently declassified records, and come to an inescapable conclusion: the administration’s reaction to what Mr. Bush was told in the weeks before that infamous briefing reflected significantly more negligence than has been disclosed. In other words, the Aug. 6 document, for all of the controversy it provoked, is not nearly as shocking as the briefs that came before it.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html


glitterbag
 
  1  
Mon 14 Jul, 2014 07:53 pm
@Olivier5,
The item entitled "Bin Ladin determined to strike in the US" was a NIE not a presidential morning briefing item. Perhaps Bush (although I doubt it) would have placed more importance if the French used a higher level of communication than to simply forward a communique to a low level CIA letter slot.

By the way, you already have displayed a jaw dropping lack of decorum by joining the ranks of the wankers who devote threads simply about a member. I would have trouble believing you if you told me Paris was in France. Seriously, I would have grave concerns. You are an annoying pissant. Please annoy someone else, Mon ami.
Olivier5
 
  1  
Mon 14 Jul, 2014 09:08 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

The item entitled "Bin Ladin determined to strike in the US" was a NIE not a presidential morning briefing item. Perhaps Bush (although I doubt it) would have placed more importance if the French used a higher level of communication than to simply forward a communique to a low level CIA letter slot.

These things go through channels... Beside, before 9/11, a plane highjacking was someting less threatening than after it.

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By the way, you already have displayed a jaw dropping lack of decorum by joining the ranks of the wankers who devote threads simply about a member. I would have trouble believing you if you told me Paris was in France. Seriously, I would have grave concerns. You are an annoying pissant. Please annoy someone else, Mon ami.

Honestly I didn't know it was such a big deal on A2K. It's not where I come from.
glitterbag
 
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Mon 14 Jul, 2014 09:17 pm
Bump
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JTT
 
  1  
Mon 14 Jul, 2014 09:47 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You and MiT should go back to page one of this thread to see just how out to lunch you both were, CI. You two sure are confused little puppies. That's what comes when you stand too close to the propaganda machine.
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JTT
 
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Mon 14 Jul, 2014 10:11 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
By the way, you already have displayed a jaw dropping lack of decorum by joining the ranks of the wankers who devote threads simply about a member.


Do you not recall, Olivier, that this lady calling you a wanker for being one "who devote(s) threads simply about a member" took an active wanker part in your thread "simply about a member"?

Post: # 5,592,222

http://able2know.org/topic/235855-1#post-5592222

The word hypocrite leaps to mind. How about for you?







Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Tue 15 Jul, 2014 02:47 am
Despite the holiday season and the German national football team returning as world champions these seconds - despite that, the Bundestag's interior committee has a special meeting today due to the spying affairs.
Olivier5
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jul, 2014 05:52 am
@JTT,
To her credit, she did not write much and appeared non-plussed by the this JTT thread. Fair is fair.
JTT
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jul, 2014 07:54 am
@Olivier5,
She was as much a wanker as anyone , Olivier. Which makes her a hypocrite. She has taken part in these events before. She has a memory like a sieve, again the grand hypocrite.
JTT
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jul, 2014 08:37 am
@Moment-in-Time,
jtt:
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Then you should be able to point to all your threads where you do this criticizing of "my country", right, MiT?




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Quite easy, really.


If it's so easy for you to point to your threads where you illustrate that you are the USA's "worse critic", MiT, why have you zoomed off so sharply on this tangent, below?


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The same way I misspell other words. I make many spelling errors (not my strong suit) but usually people are more interested in the substance and do not split hairs. You are also a nitpicker which suits someone who is a monomaniac dwelling on the subject of the "many crimes of the US." Like CI, I'm growing extremely weary of you, as you have a way of causing one to feel nauseous.


You feel nauseous because you are all over the map. If you had any degree of focus, it wouldn't happen to you.
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JTT
 
  1  
Tue 15 Jul, 2014 09:03 am
@Olivier5,
Quote:
Honestly I didn't know it was such a big deal on A2K. It's not where I come from.


It's only a big deal when glitterbag forgets how she does it and hypocritically throws it in others faces.
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Olivier5
 
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Tue 15 Jul, 2014 11:14 am
@JTT,
Is there anyone on A2K whom you don't regard as an hypocrite?
Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Tue 15 Jul, 2014 11:58 am
@Walter Hinteler,
So it became known by now that the head of the CIA for Germany will have left Berlin at least before the coming weekend.

Mainy think that the BND-head in Washington will have to leave the USA, too.
JTT
 
  0  
Tue 15 Jul, 2014 11:59 am
@Olivier5,
Come on, O5, gb was up one side of you and down the other and down the other for doing what she does all the time. Is that not a shining example of hypocrisy?

 

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