Snowdon is a dummy

Bullshyt

We've already discovered that some German intelligence agents are willing to work for foreign governments...ours.

Merkel knows this; the German intelligence community knows it...now all that is needed is for the German in the street to come to grips with it.

Frank Apisa wrote:

We've already discovered that some German intelligence agents are willing to work for foreign governments...ours.

But not in recent times. After WWII, of course - and not just intelligence workers But I do think that the situations were quite different then. And 65, 60 years is some time ...

Frank Apisa wrote:

Merkel knows this; the German intelligence community knows it...now all that is needed is for the German in the street to come to grips with it.

I don't know, if they "know" it. Might be so.
Unfortunately for you, we are neither ruled by a single person nor by the public opinion. [And I'm very happy about that] But we have a parliamentary democracy here.

What do you mean "not for some time?"

You reported one caught just a few days ago.

It is unfortunate for you that you are unwilling to see how things operate in this world.

Frank Apisa wrote:

What do you mean "not for some time?"

You reported one caught just a few days ago.

I 'reported what is and was in the news.
This person isn't and wasn't an intelligence agent. I never wrote that nor did I copy/paste any news saying such (actually that was quite clear from the very beginning, only his position only later became really clear).

An employee in the intelligence service isn't automatically an agent. At least not here.

One of your many mistakes, Frank, is that you always think things work here like in the USA.
We all here might well be less educated and more uninformed than you are, but perhaps that's just the difference ...

Stop working to destroy a decent relationship.

You are being petty here, Walter...to maintain an amazingly naive view of how countries work these days.

He works for one of your intelligence agencies. If he is not a field agent...fine. But he is an agent...in the English meaning of the word.

(Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, standing alongside Germany's foreign minister, on Sunday stressed the strategic importance of relations between the two countries, which have been battered by new allegations of U.S. spying on Berlin.

"Let me emphasize the relationship between the United States and Germany is a strategic one," Kerry said in Vienna on the sidelines of nuclear talks with Iran. "We have enormous political cooperation and we are great friends."

Kerry, appearing alongside Germany's Frank-Walter Steinmeier, did not address the latest spy scandal, though his remarks appeared aimed at the subject.

"We will continue to work together in the kind of spirit we exhibited today in a very thorough discussion," Kerry said, adding that he wished Germany well in its World Cup soccer final against Argentina on Sunday.

Steinmeier also spoke of the importance of U.S.-German cooperation in working to resolve the conflicts in Afghanistan and the Middle East, and the Iran nuclear standoff.

"Ties between the United States and Germany are necessary and essential for both of us," Steinmeier said. "We want to work on reviving this relationship, on a foundation of trust and mutual respect."

He said this applied to "all the difficulties that have arisen in our bilateral relations in recent weeks."

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Saturday that new allegations of U.S. spying showed Berlin and Washington were completely at odds over how they viewed the role of intelligence, and she hoped German action would persuade the United States not to spy on partners.

Her comments to German broadcaster ZDF came just days after her government told the CIA station chief in Berlin to leave the country, in a dramatic display of anger after German officials unearthed two suspected spies.

"Ties between the United States and Germany are necessary and essential for both of us," Steinmeier said. "We want to work on reviving this relationship, on a foundation of trust and mutual respect."

Frank Apisa wrote:

You are being petty here, Walter...to maintain an amazingly naive view of how countries work these days.

This is not how "countries work" but how who spies on us.

I'm quite happy that I'm accompanied in my pettiness and naiveté by quite a few other Germans, including our government, parliament ...

Frank Apisa wrote:

He works for one of your intelligence agencies. If he is not a field agent...fine. But he is an agent...in the English meaning of the word.

He an employee. Not even a civil servant ("Beamter") but just employed.

Agents are civil servants ("Beamte"), have at least a BA, most a MA, from the Federal University of Applied Administrative Sciences, Department of Intelligence Services.

At least one US-American isn't so suspicious about us as Frank is:
Amid new spy scandal, Kerry calls U.S. and Germany 'great friends':

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(Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, standing alongside Germany's foreign minister, on Sunday stressed the strategic importance of relations between the two countries, which have been battered by new allegations of U.S. spying on Berlin.

"Let me emphasize the relationship between the United States and Germany is a strategic one," Kerry said in Vienna on the sidelines of nuclear talks with Iran. "We have enormous political cooperation and we are great friends."

Kerry, appearing alongside Germany's Frank-Walter Steinmeier, did not address the latest spy scandal, though his remarks appeared aimed at the subject.

"We will continue to work together in the kind of spirit we exhibited today in a very thorough discussion," Kerry said, adding that he wished Germany well in its World Cup soccer final against Argentina on Sunday.

Steinmeier also spoke of the importance of U.S.-German cooperation in working to resolve the conflicts in Afghanistan and the Middle East, and the Iran nuclear standoff.

"Ties between the United States and Germany are necessary and essential for both of us," Steinmeier said. "We want to work on reviving this relationship, on a foundation of trust and mutual respect."

He said this applied to "all the difficulties that have arisen in our bilateral relations in recent weeks."

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Saturday that new allegations of U.S. spying showed Berlin and Washington were completely at odds over how they viewed the role of intelligence, and she hoped German action would persuade the United States not to spy on partners.

Her comments to German broadcaster ZDF came just days after her government told the CIA station chief in Berlin to leave the country, in a dramatic display of anger after German officials unearthed two suspected spies.

This is what Frank misses in his 'know-it-all' meme on spying.

Steinmeier:

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"Ties between the United States and Germany are necessary and essential for both of us," Steinmeier said. "We want to work on reviving this relationship, on a foundation of trust and mutual respect."

I agree with Kerry, I don't want there to be strained relationships between our two countries either.