Snowdon is a dummy

They do understand that the stazi was instituted with the help of the state of Russia.

Politics as usual, but the average U S of A citizen knows that spying is and has been done by all countries and they all deny that they are the ones doing it. It is always someone else.

You,

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Are you saying that history has shown the German people to be so trustworthy they should not be spied upon?

However, are you saying the US is trustworthy?

Our country has a record of starting wars on lies, and killing tens of thousands of innocent people.

I don't trust the US on many fronts, and that includes starting wars.

If you approve of the current Bush-Obama wars, but are resting safely at home, you should join the Army’s Chicken Hawk Brigade. There is no restriction on age or sex, and you will get an exciting front-line assignment promptly. Then, you won’t feel badly about sending others to fight your wars for oil, religion, and Empire-USA.

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But German officials believe that a domestic political audience already rocked by Edward Snowden's revelations of bulk data collection and surveillance of chancellor Merkel's mobile phone will not be satisfied by anything less than a public commitment from the Americans to curtail future espionage activity in Germany.

"Dialogue in private is fine, but there must be something in public; people are so outraged," said the German official.

Diplomats are playing down the significance of a second arrest of a German government worker on Wednesday, saying it is too soon to tell whether he was actually spying for the US, but are adamant that the arrest of an intelligence officer last week for allegedly selling documents to the CIA reveals a complete breakdown of trust between the two countries.

Anger is running so high in Berlin that several earlier overtures by the US have this week been rejected by Berlin, which instead asked the CIA's station chief to leave the country.

The Guardian has confirmed that CIA director John Brennan previously offered to come to Germany to discuss its concerns but has so far been rebuffed by officials in Berlin, who believe he must commit to something more substantive before they agree to meet.

And Bloomberg News reported on Friday that US ambassador John Emerson even offered to strike an intelligence-sharing agreement similar to the so-called "five eyes" deal between the US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, but saw his offer spurned by Merkel.

German sources deny that a formal no-spying offer was made in this way, but say they are less interested anyway in such a reciprocal arrangement than when Merkel previously discussed joining the five-eyes scheme during her last trip to Washington. They claim this is partly because of earlier confusion over the proposal, and partly because domestic anti-surveillance laws prevent Germany from offering the same level of shared intelligence as English-speaking allies do.

Instead, the German government is seeking an "informal agreement" or "common understanding" over future US intelligence activity in the country, ideally one that does not commit Germany to carrying out yet more surveillance itself in return.

"We need to find something that satisfies the German public mood," said the senior German diplomat on Friday, who warned of growing anti-Americanism in the country that could overshadow trade talks and diplomatic talks over the Ukraine. "There are not many secrets to hide here; the Americans are our friends."

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Does anyone here actually think that if an American operative were to come forward to a British operative and offer what he/she considers important secret information...that the British operative would refuse the offer?

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Does anyone here actually think that if an American operative were to come forward to a British operative and offer what he/she considers important secret information...that the British operative would refuse the offer?

So much about what you think about the USA's nonbreaching contracts and treaties, here the "Five Eyes" and "UKUSA Agreement".

Also, maybe the US had/has reason to suspect persons in the government involvement with terrorist.

In an interview with the public television broadcaster ZDF Saturday, Merkel criticized the espionage against Germany, but she said security services would continue their collaboration with US spy agencies. The interview will be broadcast Sunday evening.

"I think it's not that easy to convince the Americans … to completely change the way their intelligence services work," Merkel said Saturday. Asked whether she expected US agencies to update their policies when it comes to specifically spying on Germany, Merkel added: "I can't predict that, but certainly hope it will change."

Industrial espionage has to be one reason, even though it's not something the NSA can admit.

I think you need to reread my post. The U S is a country and was included in my statement. If some one in the U S dosent know we spy than they havent been paying attention to the news. Even the newssites that dont admit to U S wrongdoings admit we spy or why spend 80 billion dollars on the cia.

Unlike the governments of France and China, the US government does not engage in industrial espionage.