Snowdon is a dummy

Former US secretary of state Hillary Clinton has said Edward Snowden should have the right to launch a legal and public defence of his decision to leak top-secret NSA documents if he returns to the United States. The broadly worded Espionage Act makes no distinction between a spy and a whistleblower and affords Snowden almost no recourse to a defence.

Hillary Clinton: NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden has right to legal defence in US

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Former US secretary of state Hillary Clinton has said Edward Snowden should have the right to launch a legal and public defence of his decision to leak top-secret NSA documents if he returns to the United States. The broadly worded Espionage Act makes no distinction between a spy and a whistleblower and affords Snowden almost no recourse to a defence.

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NSA Targets the Privacy-Conscious for Surveillance
Jake Appelbaum et. al, are reporting on XKEYSCORE selection rules that target users -- and people who just visit the websites of -- Tor, Tails, and other sites. This isn't just metadata; this is "full take" content that's stored forever.

This code demonstrates the ease with which an XKeyscore rule can analyze the full content of intercepted connections. The fingerprint first checks every message using the "email_address" function to see if the message is to or from "[email protected]". Next, if the address matched, it uses the "email_body" function to search the full content of the email for a particular piece of text - in this case, "https://bridges.torproject.org/". If the "email_body" function finds what it is looking for, it passes the full email text to a C++ program which extracts the bridge addresses and stores them in a database.

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It is interesting to note that this rule specifically avoids fingerprinting users believed to be located in Five Eyes countries, while other rules make no such distinction. For instance, the following fingerprint targets users visiting the Tails and Linux Journal websites, or performing certain web searches related to Tails, and makes no distinction about the country of the user.

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There are also rules that target users of numerous other privacy-focused internet services, including HotSpotShield, FreeNet, Centurian, FreeProxies.org, MegaProxy, privacy.li and an anonymous email service called MixMinion as well as its predecessor MixMaster. The appid rule for MixMinion is extremely broad as it matches all traffic to or from the IP address 128.31.0.34, a server located on the MIT campus.

It's hard to tell how extensive this is. It's possible that anyone who clicked on this link -- with the embedded torproject.org URL above -- is currently being monitored by the NSA. It's possible that this only will happen to people who receive the link in e-mail, which will mean every Crypto-Gram subscriber in a couple of weeks. And I don't know what else the NSA harvests about people who it selects in this manner.

Whatever the case, this is very disturbing.

Hillary Clinton has the right to her opinion on the matter.

As do you, but your stance is ignorance personified.

You don't even know what the Constitution is about; or the right to privacy.

Just because you have nothing to hide, it doesn't make mass data collection of US citizens legal.

Most people want our privacy rights protected - even if you don't.

Get over yourself.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Hillary Clinton has the right to her opinion on the matter.

The broadly worded Espionage Act makes no distinction between a spy and a whistleblower - do you really think that this is wrong?
I've read the Act a couple of times, but I'm not a native American-English.

Though the German football team reached the semi-finals a couple of minutes ago - THE topic everywhere is that an US Espionage agency spied exactly on that parliamentary inquiry committee which investigates the NSA-affair.

But as I understand from your looping, Frank: this is done by every country, and only fools can have the idea ...

And it's laughable that we have laws against it.

Hey, fool;

laws are passed, and when caught, they are charged with the crime(s).

That's how laws work in every country - whether for good or bad.

Not sure why you think he should not get a fair trial.

But one cannot simply invent a defense that does not exist.

Yes, spying PROBABLY is done by every country...and certainly is by the US...and by Germany. What is your point?

Frank Apisa wrote:

But one cannot simply invent a defense that does not exist.

Actually, the defense is not allowed according to that Act.

I don't think that a criminal code is primarily made to pretend crimes but to punish them.

And spying is a rather serious crime here.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Yes, spying PROBABLY is done by every country...and certainly is by the US...and by Germany. What is your point?

Well, it's somehow surprising for nearly everyone here that after all the disputes re Snowden, which seemed to be somehow awy according to our government,now we learn that the USA spied on exactly that inquiry committee which was set up to ... Okay, I rest my case

If you think anything else...you are being naive. [/b]