Snowdon is a dummy

Frank Apisa wrote:

Yeah...our guys do, too!

You do know, Frank, that not only our Courts Constitution Act differs from the similar one in the USA but that we have a totally different court and legal system?

"Snowdon is a dummy"

Seems to me that no one has been talking at all.

So, Walter, you know that most of our politicians here in the US are crooks and liars...and you can take damn near anything they say with a grain or so of salt.

Yours, on the other hand, are honest, dedicated, and can be completely trusted?

Right?

You do know, Frank, that not only our Courts Constitution Act differs from the similar one in the USA but that we have a totally different court and legal system?

The scale of the surveillance industrial complex turned out to be so vast that even the NSA couldn't comprehend all the rules it was breaking. One year later, we can finally examine not just the code-named programs but the future of information itself

• Trevor Timm: Why Edward Snowden's fight isn't over yet
• Spencer Ackerman: How the NSA preserved its power
• Plus: Guardian introduces SecureDrop for whistleblowers

America's first real debate about the 21st century surveillance state began one year ago. There had, of course, been no previous shortage of hearings, op-eds and panels mulling the appropriate "balance between privacy and security" in the post-9/11 era. But for the masses who lacked a security clearance, these had the character of a middle school playground conversation about sex a largely speculative discussion among participants who'd learned a few of the key terms, but with only the vaguest sense of the reality they described. Secrecy meant abstraction, and in a conflict between abstract fears and the all-too-visible horror of a burning skyscraper, there could be little question which would prevail. The panoptic infrastructure of surveillance developed well out of public view.

A more meaningfully informed public debate finally became possible via a series of unprecedented disclosures about the global surveillance apparatus operated by the National Security Agency disclosures for which the word "leak" seems almost preposterously inadequate. It was a torrent of information, and it gave even the most dedicated newshounds a glimmer of what intelligence officials mean when they complain about "drinking from the fire hose" of planet-spanning communications networks.
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Fom the Guardian: Snowden showed us just how big the panopticon really was. Now it's up to us

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The scale of the surveillance industrial complex turned out to be so vast that even the NSA couldn't comprehend all the rules it was breaking. One year later, we can finally examine not just the code-named programs but the future of information itself

• Trevor Timm: Why Edward Snowden's fight isn't over yet
• Spencer Ackerman: How the NSA preserved its power
• Plus: Guardian introduces SecureDrop for whistleblowers

America's first real debate about the 21st century surveillance state began one year ago. There had, of course, been no previous shortage of hearings, op-eds and panels mulling the appropriate "balance between privacy and security" in the post-9/11 era. But for the masses who lacked a security clearance, these had the character of a middle school playground conversation about sex a largely speculative discussion among participants who'd learned a few of the key terms, but with only the vaguest sense of the reality they described. Secrecy meant abstraction, and in a conflict between abstract fears and the all-too-visible horror of a burning skyscraper, there could be little question which would prevail. The panoptic infrastructure of surveillance developed well out of public view.

A more meaningfully informed public debate finally became possible via a series of unprecedented disclosures about the global surveillance apparatus operated by the National Security Agency disclosures for which the word "leak" seems almost preposterously inadequate. It was a torrent of information, and it gave even the most dedicated newshounds a glimmer of what intelligence officials mean when they complain about "drinking from the fire hose" of planet-spanning communications networks.
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Well, if that is your summary of all those links - you write that continuously, but actually, the authors focused on a few different topics.

Keep up the good work, NSA will be grateful and certainly let you participate.

Yeah...you gotta hope this guy gets a chance to restore his reputation via a fair trial.

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Yeah...you gotta hope this guy gets a chance to restore his reputation via a fair trial.

Unlike Obama or Clapper, Snowden reputation is just fine and does not need to be restore,

Only to the people who want to think of him as a hero!

I've seen truer heroes in New York Deli's.

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/06/edward_snowden_.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Edward Snowden Wins EPIC "Champion of Freedom" Award
On Monday I had the honor of presenting Edward Snowden with a "Champion of Freedom" award at the EPIC dinner. Snowden couldn't be there in person -- his father and stepmother were there in his place -- but he recorded this message.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Privacy_Information_Center

Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) is a public interest research group in Washington, D.C. EPIC was established in 1994 to focus public attention on emerging civil liberties issues and to protect privacy, the First Amendment, and constitutional values in the information age. EPIC pursues activities including privacy research, public education, conferences, litigation, publications, and advocacy.

EPIC maintains web sites (epic.org and privacy.org) and publishes the online EPIC Alert every two weeks on privacy and civil liberties issues. EPIC also publishes Privacy and Human Rights, Litigation Under the Federal Open Government Laws, The Public Voice WSIS Sourcebook, The Privacy Law Sourcebook, and The Consumer Law Sourcebook. EPIC litigates privacy, First Amendment, and Freedom of Information Act cases. EPIC advocates for strong privacy safeguards.

In addition to maintaining privacy.org, EPIC also coordinates the Public Voice coalition, and the Privacy Coalition.

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Only to the people who want to think of him as a hero!

I've seen truer heroes in New York Deli's.

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https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/06/edward_snowden_.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Edward Snowden Wins EPIC "Champion of Freedom" Award
On Monday I had the honor of presenting Edward Snowden with a "Champion of Freedom" award at the EPIC dinner. Snowden couldn't be there in person -- his father and stepmother were there in his place -- but he recorded this message.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Privacy_Information_Center

Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) is a public interest research group in Washington, D.C. EPIC was established in 1994 to focus public attention on emerging civil liberties issues and to protect privacy, the First Amendment, and constitutional values in the information age. EPIC pursues activities including privacy research, public education, conferences, litigation, publications, and advocacy.

EPIC maintains web sites (epic.org and privacy.org) and publishes the online EPIC Alert every two weeks on privacy and civil liberties issues. EPIC also publishes Privacy and Human Rights, Litigation Under the Federal Open Government Laws, The Public Voice WSIS Sourcebook, The Privacy Law Sourcebook, and The Consumer Law Sourcebook. EPIC litigates privacy, First Amendment, and Freedom of Information Act cases. EPIC advocates for strong privacy safeguards.

In addition to maintaining privacy.org, EPIC also coordinates the Public Voice coalition, and the Privacy Coalition.

Yup...the guy deserves a fair trial.

I hope he gets it.

BOTTOM LINE: In my opinion, the guy deserves a fair trial no matter that so many of you think he not be allowed to get one.

Who exactly are your prosecutors going to prosecute? Obama?

Federal Prosecutor General Harald Range told the German parliament's legal affairs committee that an investigation would be held against "unknown persons".
"Sufficient factual evidence exists that unknown members of the US intelligence services spied on the mobile phone of Chancellor Angela Merkel."

And I am getting damn tired of you putting your prosecutors up as some ultra honest branch of government. ...

(... No one asks you what party you prefer or which you vote when you enter civil service.)