Snowdon is a dummy

Yes. That's why I posted about it above.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Snowden...and his cohorts...aided terrorists and terrorism with what they did.

Could you please verify "his cohorts", Frank?
(In Roman times, a cohort consisted of about 480 men and commanded by one man.)

And if he and his cohorts aided terrorists and terrorism - is our parliament, etc part of it?

His documents gave us a lot of help ...

frankie boy must mean the media (and freedom of the press) when he calls them "cohorts."

No, I don't think so, c.i. .
I'm sure that he defends the First Amendment as much as the Sixth Amendment.

In any case, Snowden...and the reporters who helped make the material public...did aid terrorists and terrorism.

You think so, huh?

Might be more harm coming your way because of it than you realize.

Actually, when I was "defending" (in SAC during the 1950's) I was defending the entire Constitution.

Frank Apisa wrote:

In any case, Snowden...and the reporters who helped make the material public...did aid terrorists and terrorism.

Thanks for clarifying.

Frank Apisa wrote:

You think so, huh?

Might be more harm coming your way because of it than you realize.

Perhaps. As it looks for the moment, it's really a harmful balancing act for our government.

I know how much some of these things bother some people...but I think...honestly...that in the long run, we will see the loss of privacy as not just a good thing, but a liberating thing.

We'll see.

Change is hard to accept...and I understand the kinds of discomfort people like you (and perhaps a majority of people) feel about this.

I just feel differently.[/b]

I know how much some of these things bother some people...but I think...honestly...that in the long run, we will see the loss of privacy as not just a good thing, but a liberating thing.

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I know how much some of these things bother some people...but I think...honestly...that in the long run, we will see the loss of privacy as not just a good thing, but a liberating thing.

Did you actually write that, Frank?

You might be interested therefore, to read the Glenn Greenwald interview linked above, the interview given to The Guardian.
He is more "American" than most of his critics and detractors.

I know how much some of these things bother some people...but I think...honestly...that in the long run, we will see the loss of privacy as not just a good thing, but a liberating thing.

We'll see.

Change is hard to accept...and I understand the kinds of discomfort people like you (and perhaps a majority of people) feel about this.

An internet search engine operator is responsible for the processing that it carries out of personal data which appear on web pages published by third parties

Thus, if, following a search made on the basis of a person’s name, the list of results displays a link to a web page which contains information on the person in question, that data subject may approach the operator directly and, where the operator does not grant his request, bring the matter before the competent authorities in order to obtain, under certain conditions, the removal of that link from the list of results

An EU directive1 has the objective of protecting the fundamental rights and freedoms of natural persons (in particular the right to privacy) when personal data are processed, while removing obstacles to the free flow of such data.
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Directive 95/46 which, according to Article 1, has the object of protecting the fundamental rights and freedoms of natural persons, and in particular their right to privacy with respect to the processing of personal data, and of removing obstacles to the free flow of such data, states in recitals 2, 10, 18 to 20 and 25 in its preamble:
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‘(2) … data-processing systems are designed to serve man; … they must, whatever the nationality or residence of natural persons, respect their fundamental rights and freedoms, notably the right to privacy, and contribute to … the well-being of individuals;
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(10) … the object of the national laws on the processing of personal data is to protect fundamental rights and freedoms, notably the right to privacy, which is recognised both in Article 8 of the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms [, signed in Rome on 4 November 1950,] and in the general principles of Community law; … for that reason, the approximation of those laws must not result in any lessening of the protection they afford but must, on the contrary, seek to ensure a high level of protection in the Community;
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What link are you talking about, Mc Tag? I'll read it.

Did you actually write that, Frank?

You have to remember Mac that Apisa will be defining "loss of privacy" in such a way that it will be a good thing. A bit of indecent exposure.