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Snowdon is a dummy

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Fri 21 Feb, 2014 10:49 am
@Frank Apisa,
No, Frank, your nonsense is not acknowledging facts as presented, and calling others hard headed or incapable of understanding issues.

Your persistence and stubbornness and inability to understand the importance of our freedoms is what galls me.

MiM and rev may think that's not important, but I do.

When I ask simple questions, you reply with stupid answers.

Keep that up, and I'll continue to call you stupid!
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Fri 21 Feb, 2014 10:53 am
@Moment-in-Time,
MiM, We're talking about posting on a social media chat thread. You really haven't been exposed to the real world or in the military where words are used to make some points. I know many professionals who use cuss words to make a point. Being polite doesn't change the world; demonstrating for the rights of all people takes intelligence and effort.

I'm an American who will fight for our rights. You can remain polite to those who would destroy it.
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Frank Apisa
 
  0  
Fri 21 Feb, 2014 11:09 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

No, Frank, your nonsense is not acknowledging facts as presented, and calling others hard headed or incapable of understanding issues.


I acknowledge all "facts" ci. And I have tried to be reasonable with you. But you have been so hard-headed, that I have had to finally acknowledge that your are hard headed.

As far as "incapable of understanding"...I find it amazing that you would even bring that up, because you use that, and variations on that, constantly...and, I might add, in my opinion inappropriately. You use that term to mean, "You do not agree with me."

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Your persistence and stubbornness and inability to understand the importance of our freedoms is what galls me.


Once again you are doing it here, ci.

I understand the importance of our freedoms. I simply have different views on how best to preserve them in some reasonable form.



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MiM and rev may think that's not important, but I do.


I think both MiT and Revelette realize that it is important also...but once again you making unreasonable assumption about what they "think" about it, because of minor differences with you on how to deal with life.

You are very intolerant of people who think differently from you, ci. You ought to get over that.

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When I ask simple questions, you reply with stupid answers.


I am not stupid...and I do not reply to your questions stupidly. Get a grip, ci.

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Keep that up, and I'll continue to call you stupid!


I have no doubt about that, ci...and I will continue to give you all the rope you beg for. Wink
revelette2
 
  1  
Fri 21 Feb, 2014 11:15 am
@JTT,
I have found, JTT, at least for me, that the more you try to instill a point of view to kids and grandkids, the more they will try and go the other way.
revelette2
 
  1  
Fri 21 Feb, 2014 11:16 am
@Frank Apisa,
Your welcome, carry on I guess. As for Snowden taking the lead in headlines again, I don't doubt it. If it don't come naturally, he will probably give another interview or one of the papers will release another snippet of "Snowden revelations."
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JTT
 
  1  
Fri 21 Feb, 2014 11:26 am
@revelette2,
Adults aren't really much better, are they, Rev? Consider all the "adults" here who proffer the lamest excuses possible for what are clearly war crimes and terrorism by the USA against the poor of the world.

What makes it even more despicable is the pretense that the USA is a caring, generous nation.
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JTT
 
  2  
Fri 21 Feb, 2014 11:32 am
@Frank Apisa,
Next/soon Frank will start in with his caring meme wherein he will tell CI that "he cares for him" and "he will always be here for him".

It's all the same old Apisa twaddle meant to distract from the fact that he doesn't really ever say anything.
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Moment-in-Time
 
  1  
Fri 21 Feb, 2014 11:54 am
@cicerone imposter,
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He even told me I'm an angry American who hates America (wrong on all counts) and I should join Snowden in Russia.


Let's face it, Ci, you do post exceptionally strong feelings against US policies so it's not difficult for a sensitive American to think you hate the US at times. This thread's subject is titled: "Snowden is a Dummy" meaning you were against his stealing US confidential documents along with military secrets" and exposing this material outside his native born country. Later you did an about face in your execution of your analysis of the man. You appeared to be swayed more by the number of people against Snowden. Be that as it may, there is no reason to be so caustic against others who share an opinion different from your own.

America is my country; it's not perfect, Lord knows, no way! But I would never steal classified information and try to hurt my country or condone the actions of those who did this thing.

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YOU CAN ALSO PUT ME ON IGNORE for all I care.


I would only use the ignore feature on you if you attack me personally in an unhealthy manner....I happen to like you as an individual. I've enjoyed viewing your pictures taken from around the world. For the most part, I find you to be a highly intelligent poster, and this is why I feel it is so unnecessary for you to use the technique you do against posters with whom you disagree. I have not been on this board very long, a few months, and you and Frank Apisa might go back a long way; therefore, I don't know if he's been abusive to you at another time. All I know is I do not like to see one lone poster being called names over and over. It goes against my moral values.

Surely, we don't need to resort to such inflammatory words to get our point out.
spendius
 
  1  
Fri 21 Feb, 2014 12:05 pm
@revelette2,
Thanks. I'll check her out. I always do that when someone recommends something. I can usually tell at a glance whether the recommendation has any value for me.

I opened the Da Vinci Code on a recommendation but threw it away after about half a page. And I was interested because I knew there was in it a connection between the Jesus bloodline and the Merovingian dynasties, the DNA of which most of us have mixed in in proportion to about what 50 mixing batches can be predicted to extrude. If you know what I mean.

Proust is big on the Merovingians and I'm big on Proust. But who could possibly read Brown's prose after Proust. It would be like watching the football on the local park.

In actual fact the Merovingians had an institution not unlike SCOTUS. And a similar arrangement of territories under one king with a fair degree of local independence as the US does. Private standing armies are not that different from State National Guards. What developed into fixed term presidencies was the usual short lifespans of the king and the lesser rulers.

Both the Merovingians and the Carolingians gave powerful secular support to the Church of Rome. A Pope was called upon to approve the transfer of power and subsequently to crown Charlemagne.

We are a United Kingdom. We have devolved assemblies which are responsible for such things as pub opening hours and how many doddering patients to knock off.

I am inclined to think though, revel, that if Ms Heyer can compare with Jane Austen I would have known. But I'll have a look on your say so.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Fri 21 Feb, 2014 12:09 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
You believe what you believe from your own vantage point; I've changed my mind on important issues, and have explained why. You must have missed all of the reasons why I changed my position on this issue - as well as those who have explained why what Snowden did was the right thing to do.

I never expect our country to be "perfect." That would be naive to a fault, but there are issues of equality and freedom that I feel very strongly about. I've always advocated for the handicapped, women, minorities, and those who doesn't enjoy the freedoms we do. Show me one post I've made that shows any difference.

I'm a reactionary, and will return what I receive from any poster. That you are thick-skinned is admirable to a point; but having no aggression to fight for those less able I find too timid from MPOV.

That I changed my position means that I'm able to change based on information I learn from others that's has more credibility.

spendius
 
  3  
Fri 21 Feb, 2014 12:17 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
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Frank Apisa is standing firmly for his views while upholding his principles, his moral beliefs,


Apisa has none of either. He's an agnostic. He has insufficient knowledge in this case on which to form a view. He is using Eddie to continue spewing vitriol and is in his long conditioned element in that regard as he just admitted. Leopards don't change their spots by making a resolution and having a few years rest.

It is extremely patronising that he should condescend to try to reform. He never stops thinking we are stupid. There are a lot of reasons why he is stupid but that is the main one.

He will be very gratified by your swooning applause.
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JTT
 
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Fri 21 Feb, 2014 12:24 pm
@cicerone imposter,
CI: there are issues of equality and freedom that I feel very strongly about. I've always advocated for the handicapped, women, minorities, and those who doesn't enjoy the freedoms we do
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Like these children, CI?
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spendius
 
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Fri 21 Feb, 2014 12:25 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
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The English language is rich in words with which to attack someone with whom you disagree, but gutter language merely show how frustratingly immature the attacker is.


No it doesn't. Not having the words does not mean the view is invalid.

A few A2K ladies have replied to some of my posts with "Snort!" I have been snorted at in many a pub but I never took it to be a sign of immaturity. In fact I find it quite attractive. It eggs me on. Or it used to when I was easily egged on.
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JTT
 
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Fri 21 Feb, 2014 12:25 pm
@cicerone imposter,
CI: I never expect our country to be "perfect."
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Laughing Laughing

What about expecting it to be even remotely close to all the bullshit hype, CI?
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spendius
 
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Fri 21 Feb, 2014 12:26 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
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Also, might I add, just because one is elderly does not imply a regression into the childhood stage.


What do you want to dash our last hope for MiT?
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revelette2
 
  2  
Fri 21 Feb, 2014 12:41 pm
@spendius,
Well, everyone has their own taste, I admit mine might not be the highest, I just read what I like and I like romances, however, she wrote quite a few war books as well as royalty books. I just find Austeen a bit depressing and sort of boring once you got passed, "IT is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife." Which has been quoted quite a bit by other romance novels.
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Olivier5
 
  3  
Fri 21 Feb, 2014 01:23 pm
@revelette2,
Frank is just as guilty of it as anybody else, worse perhaps. On this thread, he's the one who started the put-down approach to posting.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Fri 21 Feb, 2014 01:25 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Frank is just as guilty of it as anybody else, worse perhaps. On this thread, he's the one who started the put-down approach to posting.


No I did not, Olivier...and I was being reasonable and gracious to you...until you started throwing punches for no good reason. And even then, my return fire was fairly reserved and not terribly out of line.

If you have a particular in mind...bring it forward...and we can inspect it and its genesis.

But I doubt you will.
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Olivier5
 
  2  
Fri 21 Feb, 2014 01:30 pm
@spendius,
Da Vinci Code? Oh Puh-leese ! Brown writes with his but hole and his worldview is distinctly anti-Catholic...
JTT
 
  0  
Fri 21 Feb, 2014 01:37 pm
@Olivier5,
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