Snowdon is a dummy

cicerone imposter wrote:

Just watched a movie about the NSA. It probably reveals a lot about what they are capable of doing and are doing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKxQv_SVBSY&hd=1

You have to have gone completely around the bend. A Hollywood flick about NSA and you think it's accurate????? Frankly, that's just insulting and makes you look like a boob. I'm guessing you think Harry Potter is a MI 5 operative. If you want a more realistic film, check what was done by National Geographic that is the most thorough and unfogged explanation of what the NSA actually does. Everybody is getting their panties bunched when the actual truth is, the NSA is just not that into you. Does anybody remember where Americans troops are currently dodging bullets?

Frank Apisa wrote:

Izzy, the alternative is ONLY TO COLLECT DATA ON PEOPLE WHO INTEND TO COMMIT TERRORISM.

Is that what you are advocating?

Sorry for taking so long to reply, but I forgot about it. You're wrong, and setting up a false premise. There are plenty of alternatives to mass data trawling, which as David Davis has pointed out is not effective. You can target resources more effective, look at who is downloading jihadi literature, far right literature, bomb making information. Target the people who use specific websites, those they associate with. That's going to be a much more effective use of resources, because at the end of the day the real hard core will be off the grid, and you won't find them by seeing what trousers I bought from ebay.

The programmes weren't about a dystopian nightmare as such, but about how people's fears (nightmares) are used to manipulate them. In order to secure funding for intelligence services, it's necessary to exaggerate the threats facing domestic security.

Snowden was not an NSA employee, he was a high-school dropout, who at the age of 29 managed to impress a defense contractor he was the best thing since sliced bread. So

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Snowden was not an NSA employee, he was a high-school dropout, who at the age of 29 managed to impress a defense contractor he was the best thing since sliced bread. So

LOL this high school drop out walk away with the family jewels of NSA and manage to find a very very effective means of placing the government feet into the fire.

If he was nothing but a high school drop out then NSA have almost no security when it come to all the information if gather and the means of doing so.

Who else is tapping into NSA information for more evil purposes then informing the American people of the monster that had been created in the name of national security?

The mind can not even conceived of what a few junior college graduates could do given the achievements of a poor "stupid" high school drop out.

There are hard working people

It must be very invigorating to be able to despise your government as much as you do.

But I would prefer that the people entrusted with the responsibility for determining that...make the determination...not you or Edward Snowden.

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It must be very invigorating to be able to despise your government as much as you do.

You seems not to be able to understand the different between criminals that have gotten a hold of the power of government positions to tear up the constitution and the ideals of the nation with the normal and correct working of the US government.

Government officers lying to congress and congress members that does not acted when that lying come to light does not deserve respect.

Security services always want more powers. Both MI5 have used techniques that have evaded the law. They should not be allowed to do that.

Frank Apisa wrote:

But I would prefer that the people entrusted with the responsibility for determining that...make the determination...not you or Edward Snowden.

Security services always want more powers. Both MI5 have used techniques that have evaded the law. They should not be allowed to do that.

Ahhh...and "the correct working of the US government" is something you incorrectly suppose YOU decide.

You're confusing the real world and fictional characters again.

The James Bond films aren't documentaries.

Have you been checked for Alzheimers? That might explain your lousy sentence construction

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Ahhh...and "the correct working of the US government" is something you incorrectly suppose YOU decide.

The american people as a whole does indeed have that right and by the polls we are unhappy about what had been being done in secret in our names.

Love the idea that our tax funds are being used to spy on all of us against the fourth amendment.

You however are the kind of person that the German government in the 1930s would have love as you seems to have a problem with anyone exercising the right to speak out against government actions.

You mean the people who voted Barack Obama as president...to make decisions about who will run our intelligence services...and how they will do it?

Who could have guess that a former constitutional professor who stated the same kinds of concerns as I been stating when he was a senator would do a 180 degree turn once he became president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You mean the people who voted Barack Obama as president...to make decisions about who will run our intelligence services...and how they will do it?

Who could have guess that a former constitutional professor who stated the same kinds of concerns as I been stating when he was a senator would do a 180 degree turn once he became president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hell perhaps he is being blackmail by the NSA in some manner as it is very strange indeed for him to outdo Bush once he became president.

That a real danger to having a free country when you placed no limit on the intelligence community.