Snowdon is a dummy

The EU must weigh their principles

But Walter...human history sorta directs us to suppose

Have you seen the US ignore trade negotiation with any of the Euro countries?

I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street.

I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

Oh, so now it's a matter of "degree." LOL

What particularly rankles is that although US citizens were offered some protection from their intrusive security services, EU citizens had none.

And you know for a fact that your government is not playing the same kinds of games on its citizens that you suppose the government of the US is playing on its?

Evidently, it wasn't doing its job.

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And you know for a fact that your government is not playing the same kinds of games on its citizens that you suppose the government of the US is playing on its?

This ...

... is a graph from NADIS, the information-system of all our domestic secret services (16 state's and the federal one). It shows, data of how many citizens (in million) are stored on the 1rst of January of each year.

I do admit, though, that there can always be illegal activities, which aren't shown.

I supposed that the government was going to do many, many things that we were not going to like, in order to prevent (insofar as is possible) as many terroristic attacks as possible.

I also suspect (and will go on record here as saying) that we are probably one really effective terroristic attack (of the like of 9/11) from causing people to run for office PROMISING to do things that will make the stuff currently being disclosed look like piddly little nonsense. (And those people will be elected.)

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I supposed that the government was going to do many, many things that we were not going to like, in order to prevent (insofar as is possible) as many terroristic attacks as possible.

Still you advance this egregious propaganda, Frank, never acknowledging the truth, that these piddly events that have occurred against the US are but a miniscule fraction of the terrorism the US has been engaged in for over a century.

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I also suspect (and will go on record here as saying) that we are probably one really effective terroristic attack (of the like of 9/11) from causing people to run for office PROMISING to do things that will make the stuff currently being disclosed look like piddly little nonsense. (And those people will be elected.)

Y'all have always been so easy to terrify, Frank. Again, you ignore history and the truth to pretend that you are revealing something new tat no one has ever thought of before.

This isn't your usual 'top of the class' stuff, Frank.