near doubled over in laughter at how we are handling this situation
I live in one of those countries, named by Frank
I don't think that anyone here is
Quote:near doubled over in laughter at how we are handling this situation
To be quite honest: my less concern is how the USA is handling the situaation but that they disregard our laws.
And I don't think either that Snowden is a hero. But it was very courageous what he did.
Now, since the largest German conservative party ("Merkle's" CDU), agreed on it as well today - our parliament can finally establish a parliamentary "NSA investigation committee".
German politicians across party borders have spoken out in favour of setting up a parliamentary inquiry into the NSA's spying activities in Germany. But what could such a panel achieve?
German coalition and opposition politicians can hardly conceal their restment as more details about the extent of the US National Security Agency's surveillance activities on private citizens are made public, including spy software for computers and mobile phones, mobile communication listening posts and manipulated USB ports. They don't necessarily agree, however, on how to tackle the scandal in Germany.
Early on, the opposition Left Party and the Greens demanded setting up a Bundestag investigative committee, regarded as the chamber's strongest weapon since, at least in theory, such a committee has the right to question an unlimited number of witnesses.
The opposition parties, however, lack the 25 percent of the vote needed to appoint a Bundestag parliamentary inquiry on their own. Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrats (CDU) has more or less dismissed the idea, while the Social Democrats (SPD) have been hesitant.
But Hans-Peter Uhl, a parliamentary spokesman on interior policy for the conservatives, says the CSU remains unconvinced whether such a committee makes sense, and he questions what exactly it would investigate. "A German parliament can't monitor the actions of foreign governments," Uhl told DW, noting that it is unclear who would be called to testify. It's not likely, he said, that "you'll get Obama as a witness before a German parliamentary inquiry."
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But the dispute over Snowden, observers point out, is academic, even if a parliamentary inquiry were to begin its investigations into NSA activities in Germany. As the German government refuses to grant the NSA whistleblower political asylum, it is unclear how Snowden could testify before a committee in Germany without risking extradition to the US.
I will always be much more concerned with what our enemies are thinking than what our supposed allies are.
Frank Apisa wrote:I will always be much more concerned with what our enemies are thinking than what our supposed allies are.
I recommend you reconsider this approach.
I suspect you won't, but I've done what I can.
In any case, I want the guy to get a fair trial. Apparently you and some others here don't want that.
NSA reportedly developing way to break all codes
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The NSA is reportedly working on a super computer that could crack nearly ever kind of encryption. Norah O'Donnell reports.
You,Quote:In any case, I want the guy to get a fair trial. Apparently you and some others here don't want that.
You're not listening Frank. You want "the guy to get a fair trial." Many of us do not believe he will get a fair trial. The government that's been accused of a crime can't be a fair arbiter of fairness. It's called conflict of interest.
When Snowden revealed that laws were broken, some government heads should have rolled, but it didn't. Try to guess why - if that's possible.
It seems that the only solution is to find ways to block intrusion into private communication in Germany by developing encryptions that can't be invaded.
Such a program will be in high demand all around the world.
WASHINGTON (AP) — A secretive U.S. spy court has ruled again that the National Security Agency can keep collecting every American's telephone records every day, in the midst of dueling decisions in two other federal courts about whether the surveillance program is constitutional.
The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court on Friday renewed the NSA phone collection program, said Shawn Turner, a spokesman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. Such periodic requests are somewhat formulaic but required since the program started in 2006.
The latest approval was the first since two conflicting court decisions about whether the program is lawful and since a presidential advisory panel recommended that the NSA no longer be allowed to collect and store the phone records and search them without obtaining separate court approval for each search.
In a statement, Turner said that 15 judges on the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court on 36 occasions over the past seven years have approved the NSA's collection of U.S. phone records as lawful.
An American firms will be locked out of that tens of billions dollars a year business both in software and hardware.
Not even most American firms will buy from American companies.