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Snowdon is a dummy

 
 
BillRM
 
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Wed 27 Nov, 2013 09:30 pm
Anyone wish to bet that if NSA try to go after an open source OS that both windows and Apples OS have back doors?


Quote:


http://falkvinge.net/2013/11/17/nsa-asked-linus-torvalds-to-install-backdoors-into-gnulinux/

The NSA has asked Linus Torvalds to inject covert backdoors into the free and open operating system GNU/Linux. This was revealed in this week’s hearing on mass surveillance in the European Parliament. Chalk another one up of the United States NSA trying to make information technology less secure for everyone.
The father of Linus Torvalds, Nils Torvalds, is a Member of the European Parliament for Finland. This week, Nils Torvalds took part in the European Parliament’s hearing on the ongoing mass surveillance, and brought a revelation:
The United States security service NSA has contacted Linus Torvalds with a request to add backdoors into the free and open operating system GNU/Linux.
The entire inquiry is available here on YouTube (uploaded by Hax).
Nils Torvalds’ revelation was presented in an episode which started (at 3:06:58) by me pointing out to the Microsoft representative in the panel, that in a system like GNU/Linux, built on open source, you can examine the source code to see that there aren’t any back doors. In Microsoft’s systems, this possibility is absent, since the source code is secret to outsiders.
My question to the Microsoft representative was whether she’d be allowed to disclose if there are deliberate back doors in their systems, in the event that there are. She never responded to that question, but obviously, she didn’t have to. From other sources, we know that the NSA always prohibits the private companies they force into cooperation from disclosing any of it.
Nils Torvalds spoke after me, and starting at 3:09:06, he said,
When my oldest son [Linus Torvalds] was asked the same question: “Has he been approached by the NSA about backdoors?” he said “No”, but at the same time he nodded. Then he was sort of in the legal free. He had given the right answer, [but] everybody understood that the NSA had approached him.
The story does not tell us how Linus Torvalds responded to the NSA, but I’m guessing he told them he wouldn’t be able to inject backdoors even if he wanted to, since the source code is open, and all changes to it are reviewed by many independent people. After all, that’s the whole point of open source code, and the reason that open source is the only kind you can trust when it comes to security.
Still, it’s very interesting to hear confirmation that the NSA has tried to attack Linux at its lead developer, too.
You've read the whole article.
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BillRM
 
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Thu 28 Nov, 2013 09:19 am
https://www.eff.org/files/2013/11/27/ellsberg.jpg
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nickvetri
 
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Tue 3 Dec, 2013 04:20 am
@cicerone imposter,
Hey would you want to speak in an Article I'm writing for a college publication. I need someone who believes that the NSA is doing what's right for national security. Thanks please email me- [email protected].
BillRM
 
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Tue 3 Dec, 2013 11:39 am
Quote:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/02/the-nsa-wrote-turkey-day-talking-points-because-of-course-it-did/


Thanksgiving can be a touchy time for families with divergent politics. If not Obamacare, it's a good bet that somebody, somewhere was facing off with an aunt or uncle about the NSA.
Defenders of the spy agency might have found this set of talking points helpful. Distributed internally by the NSA the week before Thanksgiving and reported earlier today by Firedoglake, the two-pager — a literal set of bullet points — armed employees with verbal ammunition that they were encouraged to share "with family and close friends."
As with previous sets of talking points prepared for top intelligence officials, this latest document isn't afraid to invoke 9/11. It also cites a common statistic about the effectiveness of NSA surveillance, claiming that it contributed to the disruption of 54 terrorist plots since 2001. Critics challenge this figure, saying that less than a handful of those cases can be realistically connected to the snooping.
Another part of the talking points takes a thinly veiled shot at China.
"NSA does not and will not steal industry secrets in order to give U.S. companies a competitive advantage," it reads. Beijing has, on occasion, been accused of conducting economic espionage as a way to advance its political interests.
At other times, the talking points take a sloganeering turn.
"NSA performs its mission exceptionally well," it reads (its emphasis). "We strive to be the best we can be, because that's what America requires as part of its defense in a dangerous world."
The memo wraps with a bid for closure, pledging support for transparency and a willingness to make whatever reforms the White House sees fit. But at the dinner table, closure was probably elusive.
Hat tip: Christopher Soghoian
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cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 3 Dec, 2013 01:27 pm
@nickvetri,
All I can say is that NSA has a job to do to ensure that no terrorist organization get past our security systems. Beyond that, their search into private communication is against the US Constitution, and is illegal.
spendius
 
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Tue 3 Dec, 2013 06:05 pm
@cicerone imposter,
So it's a straight choice. The Constitution or security.
cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 3 Dec, 2013 06:49 pm
@spendius,
Why not both?

We already have criminals in this country, and when they break the laws, they are brought to "justice."

The Constitution doesn't allow for intrusion into our privacy.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 09:22 am
Quote:
The European parliament is lining up Edward Snowden to give evidence by video link later this month, in spite of resistance by British Conservatives, a Green MEP has announced.
[...]
Sources within the European parliament considered it likely that committee members would vote in favour of a Snowden hearing, with the only vocal opposition represented by British Conservative MEPs. Since the Tories are no longer part of the European People's party alliance of centre-right parties, however, one MEP described their reluctance as "not crucial".
[...]
Source
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spendius
 
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Sun 8 Dec, 2013 09:42 am
@cicerone imposter,
I think you've missed the point ci.
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BillRM
 
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Mon 9 Dec, 2013 12:57 pm
Join the NSA and play video games for a fat government paycheck and Snowdon is the dummy!!!!!!!

We need to cut their budget by 80 percents or so at the very least.


Quote:


(CNN) -- Spies with surveillance agencies in the United States and United Kingdom may have spent time undercover as orcs and blood elves, infiltrating video games like "World of Warcraft" in a hunt for terrorists "hiding in plain sight" online.
That's the finding of the most recent round of documents released by National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden to British newspaper The Guardian.
Agents from the CIA, FBI and Pentagon and England's Government Communications Headquarters infiltrated WoW and virtual world "Second Life," as well as collecting information on the Xbox Live gaming network, according to the documents.
A 2008 NSA memo called online gaming a "target-rich communications network" where terrorists could communicate "in plain sight."
None of the newly leaked documents, published this time in conjunction with ProPublica and the New York Times, mentioned specific terrorist activity foiled via the projects.
But apparently so many agents were engaged in playing video games for national security that a "deconfliction" group was created to make sure government agents weren't accidentally spying on each other.
Unlike traditional console and desktop games in which players compete in a closed environment, massively multiplayer online games (MMOs) allow players from around the world to team up and play together, often in real time using in-game communication tools.
"World of Warcraft" is the most popular online role-playing game ever. It peaked at about 12 million subscribers in 2010 and still has more than 7 million, according to Blizzard.
It's unclear whether the agencies had surveillance capabilities within the massively multi-player games that normal players would not. A spokesman for Blizzard Entertainment, which owns "World of Warcraft," told The Guardian it is unaware of any surveillance having taken place.
"If it was, it would have been done without our knowledge or permission," the spokesman said.
On Friday, Microsoft announced it was strengthening encryption across many of its services in an effort to push back against "government snooping."
And Monday, the company joined Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Apple, Twitter and LinkedIn issuing a public statement asking the world's governments to rein in online surveillance.
While acknowledging the scope and popularity of online gaming, some security experts were questioning Monday whether spying on digital playgrounds is either wise or effective.
"I think I've heard it all now," wrote British security analyst Graham Cluely.
"Obviously online games which include chat or IM facilities do provide a method for people to communicate ... but how practical is it to have a team of spies sniffing around 'World of Warcraft' to see what they might find?" he wrote.
"Why aren't they also snooping -- maybe they are! -- on the chess app I have on my smartphone? Perhaps every time I mess up my Dutch Stonewall defence it's not really an indication that I'm a lousy chess student, but instead a coded message for my opponent to launch an attack on SCADA systems in the Netherlands?"
Snowden, 30, has admitted he was the source behind the leak of classified NSA documents, which revealed the existence of top-secret surveillance programs that collect records of domestic e-mails and telephone calls in the United States and monitor the cell phone and Internet activity of overseas residents.
A former contractor with the agency, he is wanted in the United States on espionage charges.
BillRM
 
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Mon 9 Dec, 2013 04:27 pm
Quote:

BY MARCY GORDON AND MICHAEL LIEDTKE
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON -- Silicon Valley is escalating pressure on President Barack Obama to curb the U.S. government surveillance programs that vacuum personal information off the Internet and threaten the technology industry's financial livelihood.

A coalition that includes Google, Apple, Yahoo, Facebook and Microsoft lashed out in an open letter printed Monday in major newspapers and a new website, http://reformgovernmentsurveillance.com .

The crusade united eight companies that often compete fiercely against each other, but now find themselves banding together to limit the potential damage from revelations about the National Security Agency's snooping on Web surfers.

Twitter Inc., LinkedIn Corp. and AOL Inc. joined Google Inc., Apple Inc., Yahoo Inc., Facebook Inc. and Microsoft Corp. in the push for tighter controls over electronic espionage. The group is immersed in the lives of just about everyone who uses the Internet or a computing device.

As the companies' services and products have become more deeply ingrained in society, they have become integral cogs in the economy. Their prosperity also provides them with the cash to pay for lobbyists and fund campaign contributions that sway public policy.

Monday's public relations offensive is a by-product of documents leaked over the past six months by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden. The records reveal that the NSA has been obtaining emails and other personal data from major tech companies under secret court orders for the past five years and scooping up other data through unauthorized hacking into data centers.

Silicon Valley has been fighting back in the courts and in Congress as they seek reforms that would allow them to disclose more information about secret court orders. Several of the companies are also introducing more encryption technology to shield their users' data from government spies and other prying eyes.

Monday's letter and the new anti-snooping website represent the technology industry's latest salvo in an attempt to counter any perception that they voluntarily give the government access to users' email and other sensitive information.

Although the campaign is ostensibly directed at governments around the world, the U.S. is clearly the main target.

"The balance in many countries has tipped too far in favor of the state and away from the rights of the individual — rights that are enshrined in our Constitution," the letter said. "This undermines the freedoms we all cherish. It's time for a change."

Civil liberties aren't the only thing at stake. One of the reasons the technology companies have become a rich vein for crime-fighting authorities is that they routinely store vast amounts of personal data as part of their efforts to tailor services and target advertising.

By analyzing search requests, Web-surfing habits, social networking posts and even the content of emails, the companies are able to determine, for instance, the type of digital ads to show individual users. The NSA revelations have raised fears that people might shy away from some Internet services or share less information about themselves. Such a shift would make it more difficult for companies to increase their ad revenue and, ultimately, boost their stock prices.

In a statement, Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer said the NSA disclosures had "shaken the trust of our users."

Google CEO Larry Page and Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, two of the richest people in the world, also chimed with statements urging the U.S. to adopt reforms to protect personal information.

U.S. intelligence officials have staunchly defended the electronic espionage, contending the NSA's tactics have helped disrupt terror attacks. Officials also insist that the agency takes care not to look at the content of conversations or messages by U.S. citizens.

Obama has asked a panel of hand-picked advisers to report on the spying issue this month and recently said he'll propose the NSA use "some self-restraint" in handling data. He maintains, however, that the NSA isn't interested in reading people's emails and text messages.

Monday's letter goes farther than the companies' previous statements in favor of overhauling surveillance practices, according to Kevin Bankston, policy director of the New America Foundation's Open Technology Institute. He notes that the new principles put forward by the companies include "an unambiguous condemnation" of bulk data collection as conducted by the NSA.

It was a shrewd move for the companies to disseminate the open letter through newspaper ads, said Daniel Castro, a senior analyst for the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation, a Washington, D.C. think tank.

By virtue of connecting directly with a massive proportion of the U.S. population, the companies "have a huge reach," Castro said. "They want people to be supporting and rallying around this effort."

The Silicon Valley companies also are waging an attack in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, where they are fighting to be allowed to reveal more details about how frequently the NSA has been seeking user data. U.S. law currently prevents the recipients of national security orders from breaking down the number of demands they get under the Patriot Act. The companies contend that restriction fuels the erroneous perception that the government has a direct pipeline to their users' data.

The government countered with a motion on Friday arguing that it should be able to redact, or withhold from publication, parts of its justifications to the courts for barring such detailed reporting by the companies.

Technology companies are also concerned that governments outside the U.S., such as the European Union, might set tougher rules for businesses to protect the privacy of their citizens, according to Joss Wright, a research fellow of the Oxford Internet Institute.

"It's potentially huge," Wright said. "Other countries around the world could make it harder for (the companies) to carry on with unrestricted data gluttony."



Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/12/09/v-fullstory/3807628/tech-giants-call-for-controls.html#storylink=cpy
cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 9 Dec, 2013 05:45 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Obama has asked a panel of hand-picked advisers to report on the spying issue this month and recently said he'll propose the NSA use "some self-restraint" in handling data. He maintains, however, that the NSA isn't interested in reading people's emails and text messages.


He's already shown he's a liar, and he wants people to believe him? What's even funnier is his "hand-picked advisers" and use "some self-restraint."

Unfortunately, directives must come from the top, or he's responsible for allowing the destruction of our Constitutional Rights to Privacy. He's soft-peddling this issue, and why congress and the supreme court isn't doing anything is the biggest mystery. You'd think that the republican (House) congress and USSC would dig into this issue very quickly. They all swore to uphold the Constitution when they swore into office.
spendius
 
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Mon 9 Dec, 2013 06:00 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
They all swore to uphold the Constitution when they swore into office.


But that's just a euphemism for making the USA "great". 200 odd years later mass surveillance might be necessary to keep the USA "great".
cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 9 Dec, 2013 06:01 pm
@spendius,
Destroying the Constitution doesn't make this country "great."
spendius
 
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Mon 9 Dec, 2013 06:05 pm
@cicerone imposter,
An assertion which craftily evades the point.
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BillRM
 
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Mon 9 Dec, 2013 06:37 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
You'd think that the republican (House) congress and USSC would dig into this issue very quickly. T


There hands are not clean that is the reason why.
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oralloy
 
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Tue 10 Dec, 2013 06:09 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
(CNN) -- Spies with surveillance agencies in the United States and United Kingdom may have spent time undercover as orcs and blood elves, infiltrating video games like "World of Warcraft" in a hunt for terrorists "hiding in plain sight" online.

I can see why they would want to prevent terrorists from communicating through WoW. But I'm unsure what they would achieve by logging in as characters. I'm pretty sure that if terrorists ever communicated that way, they wouldn't be posting on City Trade.

They played Belfs? Really? Or was that just the reporter adding flavor to the article?
oralloy
 
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Tue 10 Dec, 2013 10:51 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Quote:
(CNN) -- Spies with surveillance agencies in the United States and United Kingdom may have spent time undercover as orcs and blood elves, infiltrating video games like "World of Warcraft" in a hunt for terrorists "hiding in plain sight" online.

I can see why they would want to prevent terrorists from communicating through WoW. But I'm unsure what they would achieve by logging in as characters. I'm pretty sure that if terrorists ever communicated that way, they wouldn't be posting on City Trade.

They played Belfs? Really? Or was that just the reporter adding flavor to the article?

Another article about it:
http://www.propublica.org/article/world-of-spycraft-intelligence-agencies-spied-in-online-games


BTW, this study that was funded by the Air Force, I find questionable:
http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/889107/through-the-azerothian-looking-glass-mapping-in.pdf

Girls most certainly do PVP in World of Warcraft. And they do it quite well, too.
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JPB
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 11:41 am
Long expose in The New Yorker. I'm still reading…

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/12/16/131216fa_fact_lizza?currentPage=all
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 11 Dec, 2013 12:00 pm
@JPB,
Good article; especially liked the section on the Bay of Pigs.
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