Snowdon is a dummy

@Walter Hinteler,

This is what Frank has been trying to point out to all of you. Insurance companies have access to your medical records and have had for 70 years and they pass out this information to their friends in the industries. Privacy has been a joke for a long time. Did you know that U S of A doctors have to post to a national medical computer site information on all their patients? Its the law.

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@revelette,

I am amazed that all people dont realize we have had corporate spying on us for 100 years. Where are the thinking citizens of the U S of A? Listening to Fox news and the Koch brothers brainwashing networks I guess.

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@RABEL222,

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Insurance companies have access to your medical records and have had for 70 years and they pass out this information to their friends in the industries.

I think that you are as misinformed as Frank, Rabel. Regardless, this has nothing to do with the crimes being committed by your governments but I've noticed that you, like Frank, often use diversion to move things away from those heinous crimes.

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@RABEL222,

They do so here as well - anonymised. (I've signed for this agreement.)

My (basic) medical information is on the chip of my insurance card - it can only be read by an authorised card reader. And I have to specially allow such.

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@Walter Hinteler,

When I travel, I carry a CD with me with all of my medical/health information on it in the event I'll need medical care while away from home.

I have printed on the disk, ANY HEALTH CARE WORKER ATTENDING TO ME HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO READ MY HEALTH HISTORY ON THIS DISK IF I AM UNABLE TO PROVIDE VERBAL AUTHORIZATION.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Personally I find it a bit ironic for internet companies to be concerned with government spying when they spy themselves. But whatever.

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Precisely!!!

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WASHINGTON (AP) - The U.S. government's efforts to determine which highly classified materials leaker Edward Snowden took from the National Security Agency have been frustrated by Snowden's sophisticated efforts to cover his digital trail by deleting or bypassing electronic logs, government officials told The Associated Press. Such logs would have showed what information Snowden viewed or downloaded.

The government's forensic investigation is wrestling with Snowden's apparent ability to defeat safeguards established to monitor and deter people looking at information without proper permission, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to discuss the sensitive developments publicly.

The disclosure undermines the Obama administration's assurances to Congress and the public that the NSA surveillance programs can't be abused because its spying systems are so aggressively monitored and audited for oversight purposes: If Snowden could defeat the NSA's own tripwires and internal burglar alarms, how many other employees or contractors could do the same? More

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@JPB,

Clearly the government needs to get better at it at plugging those vulnerabilities.

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@revelette,

There are two side of that sword.

One - they keep telling us lies and bs about how safe their procedures are and how "what we aren't hearing about are abuses because abuses do not occur".

Two - if not for Snowden then we'd have no idea that our government had taken the constitution and started using it for toilet paper.

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@JPB,

I think the issue is overblown, but I know you think differently.

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@revelette,

I do not believe for a moment that this issue is overblown. The government has continued to lie about this issue, and have authorized the detention of American citizens without charge or trial, and also can torture without legal representation.

Where is the "overblown?"

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@cicerone imposter,

lets not forget extra judicial executions of Americans by drone....

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@revelette,

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but I know you think differently.

Let's put to rest this worn out old Frank Apisa canard, Rev. It suits Frank, but it doesn't become someone as honest as you.

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Spiegel just has published some new results about NSA-activities (related to spying on the UN, EU and from the General Consulate in Francfort).

But only in German until now.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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Germany’s Der Spiegel published its latest NSA scoop on Sunday, citing internal documents to say the Americans cracked the encryption of the United Nations’ internal videoconferencing system.

The NSA successfully cracked the encryption guarding the United Nations’ internal videoconferencing system, according to documents seen by Germany’s Der Spiegel.

The publication said on Sunday that the encryption’s bypassing took place in the summer of 2012, and that within three weeks the NSA had boosted the number of such decrypted communications from 12 to 458.

According to the documents, on one occasion when the Americans were breaking into UN communications, they discovered the Chinese had tried to do the same.

Der Spiegel‘s report also followed on from earlier revelations about the NSA bugging EU institutions, explaining that the U.S. agency gained access to the virtual private network (VPN) used by the EU’s embassies in America.

It also claimed that the U.S. maintains a monitoring program called the “Special Collection Service” in 80 embassies and consulates around the world, often without the knowledge of the host country.

Source

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@JTT,

Your right it doesn't and it was borrowed. I just get tired of this subject I guess.

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@cicerone imposter,

I was speaking of the spying issue.

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@revelette,

I'm also discussing the spying issue; the government cannot be trusted.

They have already taken away our Constitutional rights to legal representation if charged as a terrorist. Obama (and GW Bush) authorize(d) the detention of American citizens without charge, and also approve(d) torture.

Spying on Americans is also illegal under our Constitution. Our rights to privacy is sacrosanct.

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@RABEL222,

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I am amazed that all people dont realize we have had corporate spying on us for 100 years.

Yes, Rabel, most observant Americans are aware. Every time one gives out their Social Security no, and any personal information to open a bank account, credit account...the Internet is no longer just satisfied by a phone land line if they need to reach one, they also wanted my cell number which I had resisted giving for a long time. The other day I was looking for a particular item on the internet. After a couple of tries, I'd forgotten my search until, lo and behold, two days later, the item I was looking for appeared with a reduced price and I ended up purchasing it.....that is referred to as Cookies. We are watched; remember the Marathon Boston run....the way the FBI caught the suspects were through cameras at every street corner. There's digital data watching/recording when we go to the ATM, at the Teller's window, as we are in the subways, inside stores, etc. (every time we use our Debit Card, where we are using it is recorded and we can be tracked.) The list is endless, seemingly. So to now complain within today's newer technology that more and more spying is going on in such a way that could be helpful to catching would be terrorists, well, that's fine with me.

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@Arjunakki,

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such a way that could be helpful to catching would be terrorists, well, that's fine with me.

Not fine with me or anyone else that care for living under a constitutional government.

You are indeed safer under a police state from anyone but the government that is.

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