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What are your pet peeves re English usage?

 
 
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2013 10:00 pm
@McTag,
There is a song in which datum is rhymed with atom which I think has a reference to a datum as the singular data.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2013 10:05 pm
@MontereyJack,
Seraphim, like cherubim, formed one of the nine choirs of angels. I remember angels, arcangels, thones, dominions, powers plus the two above. I do not remember all of them.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jan, 2013 10:07 pm
@plainoldme,
I also can not remember ever seeing cherubims or seraphims.

BTW, there is or was a local furniture manufacturer in central Ma called The Seraph whose logo feature(s/d) a flying angel bearing a trumpet.
McTag
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jan, 2013 03:27 am
@plainoldme,

Okay maybe that's just me.

But bedouins is quite common, I think.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jan, 2013 12:38 pm
http://www.theonion.com/articles/4-copy-editors-killed-in-ongoing-ap-style-chicago,30806/

Quote:
NEW YORK—Law enforcement officials confirmed Friday that four more copy editors were killed this week amid ongoing violence between two rival gangs divided by their loyalties to the The Associated Press Stylebook and The Chicago Manual Of Style.

“At this time we have reason to believe the killings were gang-related and carried out by adherents of both the AP and Chicago styles, part of a vicious, bloody feud to establish control over the grammar and usage guidelines governing American English,” said FBI spokesman Paul Holstein, showing reporters graffiti tags in which the word “anti-social” had been corrected to read “antisocial.”
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jan, 2013 09:22 pm
@plainoldme,
Quote:
I also can not remember ever seeing cherubims or seraphims.


Of course not, POM, they don't exist.




MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2013 04:55 pm
they may be nonexistent, but they're still plural, kinda like gods.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2013 05:02 pm
@MontereyJack,
we had an east coast/west coast argument about writing style among geologists.
The words GROUND WATER, was crafted by USGS style manuals with lotsa rules to use (Its hyphenated when its an adjective like ground-water discharge). Then, the west coast guys (mostly the Stanford dweebs) started using GROUNDWATER this and GROUNDWATER that.
Lotsa bad feelings ensued, followed by name calling at symposia.
It was awful, we lost almost an entire generation.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2013 05:53 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
Of course not, POM, they don't exist.

Not got very far have you JT?
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2013 07:07 pm
@farmerman,
Idiots just like you when it comes to how language works, eh, Farmer?
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2013 07:42 pm
@JTT,
Funny, I've been reading his posts for five or six years now, and the language always seems to work perfectly well for him.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2013 07:51 pm
@MontereyJack,
Farmer is way up there re whom I'll listen to.
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2013 02:34 am
@farmerman,

Quote:
we had an east coast/west coast argument about writing style among geologists.
The words GROUND WATER, was crafted by USGS style manuals with lotsa rules to use (Its hyphenated when its an adjective like ground-water discharge). Then, the west coast guys (mostly the Stanford dweebs) started using GROUNDWATER this and GROUNDWATER that.
Lotsa bad feelings ensued, followed by name calling at symposia.
It was awful, we lost almost an entire generation.


How dreadful.

In the UK, the product we know as mince is called ground beef in the USA, I believe.

So will that be changing to groundbeef anytime soon?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2013 02:59 am
@McTag,
According to Merriam Webster (on the blog there, they discussed groundwater/ground water, too) the us of 'groundwater' is known since "circa 1889". The German term "Grundwasser" is used since the 16th century, at least, .....
McTag
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2013 03:05 am
@Walter Hinteler,
But of course Germany is the home of compoundnouns. German peoplewhomuckaboutwith language are worldfamous, weltberuehmt.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2013 03:22 am
@McTag,
Quote:
As a member of the Germanic family of languages, English is special in that compound words are usually written in their separate parts. ... Writing them as separate words is merely an orthographic convention, possibly a result of influence from French.
McTag
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2013 06:01 am
@Walter Hinteler,

Well there you are then. WE are out of step with other members of the Germanic family of languages.
Does that make us wrong? Or just more sensible than the others? Wink
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2013 06:11 am
@Walter Hinteler,
"Style Manuals" usually trump any dictionary when it comes to ords used in jargon by some hobby or profession.
Ground water had ALWAYS been used as a compound of two words (we understand Grunndwasser usage in German papers). Its only been taking a congealed form since the magazine "GROUNDWATER", began doing it and then West Coast geologists started using the term.
US GS style still refers to the double compound form witha hyphen when used as an adjective.
In 2001THE AGI "Glossary" had switched over to a sigle compound form "Groundwater" as the only such word with "ground" as a lead term.
AGI pussied out.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2013 07:02 am
@farmerman,
What does "pussied out" mean?
roger
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2013 02:20 pm
@spendius,
Same as "wimped it out".
 

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