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What are your pet peeves re English usage?

 
 
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2008 07:53 pm
Letty wrote:
Sorry, dear. Continue means to go ahead. Continue on is redundant


Language is "chuck" Smile full of redundancies, Letty. Some are used for emphasis, some for making speech more friendly, some for other reasons, which escape me now.

We have "tonnes" [for the Europeans] of verbs that we add redundant prepositions to to make them more engaging, more friendly.
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 03:58 am
Thanks JTT.

I like "beyond the pail" best.

Smile
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 06:14 am
It's "pale" Mac.

The pale, originally, was that part of Ireland (the eastern counties) where English jurisdiction was established in the 16th century. Beyond that was the badlands. It derives from wooden fencing panels. Hence your neighbours are beyond the pale. Mine are.

It means unworthy of being a member of polite society due to unacceptable personal habits.
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contrex
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 07:17 am
spendius wrote:
It's "pale" Mac.


I rather think he knows that, Spendius.
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 07:42 am
Yes. The Pale of Settlement and all that.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 08:27 am
Fetch me a pale of water
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 08:39 am
farmerman wrote:
Fetch me a pale of water


My father used to say, "You're looking pale. Have you been eating basins?"

Oh, the fun we had in the days before television.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 12:46 pm
spendius wrote:
It's "pale" Mac.


No, it isn't, Spendius.

Bill: Where's the hammer, Jack?

Jack: There, beyond the pail.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 01:06 pm
JTT--

Love the Eggcorn site.

As for "beyond the pail" the drunk's outraged system is purging. The pail alone is inadequate and a mop is needed.

Perhaps also "beyond the pail" means that he can't carry the proverbial tune in the proverbial bucket and must restort to the proverbial peach basket.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 01:08 pm
I think this "President Osama" thing is gonna be pretty funny.
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SCoates
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 03:17 pm
Some of these "misused" words carry the same meaning as the "correct" versions.

To "peak" someone's interest--to cause it to be at its peak.

A mute point (rather than moot)--the issue has been silenced.

I even like the metaphor of a "mindgrain." But it takes some imagination.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 04:12 pm
SCoates wrote:
Some of these "misused" words carry the same meaning as the "correct" versions.

To "peak" someone's interest--to cause it to be at its peak.

A mute point (rather than moot)--the issue has been silenced.

I even like the metaphor of a "mindgrain." But it takes some imagination.


I agree, SCoates. I think some of these eggcorns are natural progressions. Who knows how many of these idioms that seem so natural to us now weren't progressions from other forms.

This, from AHD on 'acorn', also found on the eggcorn site.

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ETYMOLOGY: Middle English akorn, from Old English æcern.

WORD HISTORY: A thoughtful glance at the word acorn might produce the surmise that it is made up of oak and corn, especially if we think of corn in its sense of "a kernel or seed of a plant," as in peppercorn. The fact that others thought the word was so constituted partly accounts for the present form acorn. Here we see the workings of the process of linguistic change known as folk etymology, an alteration in form of a word or phrase so that it resembles a more familiar term mistakenly regarded as analogous. Acorn actually goes back to Old English æcern, "acorn," which in turn goes back to the Indo-European root *g-, meaning "fruit, berry."

http://www.bartleby.com/61/5/A0060500.html

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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 04:58 pm
SCoates wrote:
Some of these "misused" words carry the same meaning as the "correct" versions.

To "peak" someone's interest--to cause it to be at its peak.



Debatable, that one, I think.

And "anchors away" and "anchor's a-weigh" have directly opposite meanings.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jan, 2008 08:59 pm
......... wrote:
ok
lookin at it.. now what?

It looks in tact to me..


I found this eggcorn on the able2know site. The name has been deleted to protect the innocent. Now, no exact word searches, you guys. The person was under the gun, great pressure. It could happen to any of us.
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verbivore
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jan, 2008 03:36 am
I'm not sure whether I am remembering incorrectly, or if it is due to cultural differences, but (as a Briton) I would say that both of these are correct. Anyone care to agree/disagree? I'm confused!

Grand i hope you got the answer to this question...now u need to research on the word "remembering".as far i know that is an improper usage as per british english rules :wink:
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Clary
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 07:32 am
I saw TOWING the line in an esteemed Sunday newspaper this week!
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Mame
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 09:42 am
McTag wrote:
My father used to say, "You're looking pale. Have you been eating basins?"

Oh, the fun we had in the days before television.



Laughing
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 12:27 pm
Clary wrote:
I saw TOWING the line in an esteemed Sunday newspaper this week!


Quite common, is that.
And it's one you could believe, as in SCoates' comment, to pick up the rope and help by towing it, in other words to cooperate.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 12:57 pm
so what should it be toeing?
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 01:49 pm
Yes, to toe the line. (Not to cross the line)
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