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What are your pet peeves re English usage?

 
 
Piffka
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 09:15 am
McTag wrote:
That reminds me of a New Yorker cartoon, where two adults were looking at a child with a new construction toy.

Caption: "It's a new toy designed to teach them about life. Whichever way you put it together, it's wrong."



Great cartoon! Very Happy


Mame.... small and smart, wise and wee. Those Picts!
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strawberry333
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2007 01:28 pm
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6) Using foreign phrases and mispronouncing them. I heard on the radio the other day someone attempt "pince-nez." He pronounced it as spelled.


I just noticed #6 at the beginning of the thread.

I have no idea what this word is. And if I had to say it, would pronounce as spelled.

Can someone please explain?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2007 01:42 pm
It's French and means ""pinch nose".

It's a kind of glasses/spectactles - see here

I suppose, you pronounce it like most Americans (and not a few English) pronounce French words: as spelled :wink:
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2007 02:28 pm
Walter is pulling your leg.

A dictionary will give the pronunciation required.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2007 03:19 pm
Aproximate pronunciation: ponse nay.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2007 06:08 pm
This is so common and egregious that I'm sure it has already been said.
I am appalled by reference to "healthy food" when it is not meant that they are disease-free.
Grapes are healthful, not healthy; they help you remain healthy.
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2007 07:40 pm
JLNobody wrote:
This is so common and egregious that I'm sure it has already been said.
I am appalled by reference to "healthy food" when it is not meant that they are disease-free.
Grapes are healthful, not healthy; they help you remain healthy.


If a diet can be healthy, why can't the components that make up the diet, also be healthy, JLN? I think the meaning of 'healthy grapes' is covered by definition #2, "conducive to good health".

Did you perchance come across this in a style manual?


Quote:


AHD:

healthy

SYLLABICATION: health·y

ADJECTIVE: Inflected forms: health·i·er, health·i·est

2. Conducive to good health; healthful: healthy air.


USAGE NOTE: The distinction in meaning between healthy ("possessing good health") and healthful ("conducive to good health") was ascribed to the two terms only as late as the 1880s. This distinction, though tenaciously supported by some critics, is belied by citational evidence?-healthy has been used to mean "healthful" since the 16th century. Use of healthy in this sense is to be found in the works of many distinguished writers, with this example from John Locke being typical: "Gardening . . . and working in wood, are fit and healthy recreations for a man of study or business." Therefore, both healthy and healthful are correct in these contexts: a healthy climate, a healthful climate; a healthful diet, a healthy diet.

http://www.bartleby.com/61/65/H0106500.html

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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2007 07:53 pm
JTT, the only situation in which a healthy diet may consist of healthy components is when we eat the meat of healthy animals. A plant may be lacking in nutrients (and is therefore not healthful) but it may be healthy (not suffering a plant disease) .
No, I had not seen this perspective in a manual. The only manual I have is The Elements of Style by Strunk and White, but it should obvious that I do not consult it.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 1 Feb, 2007 07:53 pm
JTT, the only situation in which a healthy diet may consist of healthy components is when we eat the meat of healthy animals. A plant may be lacking in nutrients (and is therefore not healthful) but it may be healthy (not suffering a plant disease) .
No, I had not seen this perspective in a manual. The only manual I have is The Elements of Style by Strunk and White, but it should obvious that I do not consult it.
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 05:34 am
JLNobody wrote:
JTT, the only situation in which a healthy diet may consist of healthy components is when we eat the meat of healthy animals. A plant may be lacking in nutrients (and is therefore not healthful) but it may be healthy (not suffering a plant disease) .
No, I had not seen this perspective in a manual. The only manual I have is The Elements of Style by Strunk and White, but it should obvious that I do not consult it.


You eat the meat of an animal, it's not healthy, it's dead. Usually.

Big Oz: "You call this steak medium rare? A good vet would soon have this back on its feet again"

Smile
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 10:14 am
I once went to a steak house with a priest who told the waiter that he wanted his prime rib VERY (read: absolutely) rare. He added wlith a smile, "just cut off its horns, kick his ass, and through him on the plate."

But I think he was referring to a healthy steer.
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Mame
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 09:00 pm
coworker and coop housing

it's co-worker and co-op housing, please!
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 09:07 pm
Mame wrote:
coworker and coop housing

it's co-worker and co-op housing, please!


Why is the hyphen necessary in coworker, Mame? Just wonderin'.
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Mame
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 09:34 pm
only for ease of understanding - it looks like a cow worker...
it's not necessary, of course, but...
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 10:29 pm
Mame wrote:
only for ease of understanding - it looks like a cow worker...
it's not necessary, of course, but...


Okay.

To me it looks like a 'cow orker'. I wonder, does that describe somebody who 'orks' cows? I wonder if it's fun.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 10:49 pm
JTT wrote:
Mame wrote:
only for ease of understanding - it looks like a cow worker...
it's not necessary, of course, but...


Okay.

To me it looks like a 'cow orker'. I wonder, does that describe somebody who 'orks' cows? I wonder if it's fun.


Why not try it some time, JTT?
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JTT
 
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Reply Sat 3 Feb, 2007 12:49 am
Merry Andrew wrote:
JTT wrote:
Mame wrote:
only for ease of understanding - it looks like a cow worker...
it's not necessary, of course, but...


Okay.

To me it looks like a 'cow orker'. I wonder, does that describe somebody who 'orks' cows? I wonder if it's fun.


Why not try it some time, JTT?


Is that a personal recommendation, Merry? Smile
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Clary
 
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Reply Sat 3 Feb, 2007 04:23 am
Coop housing is definitely for the birds! And how about polopony?

Brits and Canadians enjoy hyphens.
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hiama
 
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Reply Sat 3 Feb, 2007 04:40 am
hyp-hens inoculated poultry ?
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Clary
 
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Reply Sat 3 Feb, 2007 05:37 am
Very apposite with the Bernard Matthews Flu Threat (probably a better death for those turkeys than life with BM)
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