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What are your pet peeves re English usage?

 
 
McTag
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 04:04 am
I heard a good one last week and thought "Must post that on the Thread", but I can't remember it now....am writing this in case I can jog my memory...

No, it's gone. I'll come back later. Senior moment.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 06:49 am
One thing which really peeves me is the radio ads in Canada in which the announcer has a thick Scots accent . . .

(Special for McT . . .)
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 10:18 am
Sorry about that. In this country, there are certain regional accents which have been shown by research to be perceived by the average listener to be more trustworthy, honest, dependable etc. Certain types of Scottish accent feature well, and sometimes Geordie...southern accents don't score highly, (natch) and so we too get a lot of Scottish voices selling financial services etc etc
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 11:20 am
Lot of Scots came to Canada. In particular, there is a furniture company which uses an announcer with a thick highland accent. I suspect they're banking on the trustworthiness perception . . .
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 15 May, 2006 03:59 pm
Setanta wrote:
One thing which really peeves me is the radio ads in Canada in which the announcer has a thick Scots accent . . .

(Special for McT . . .)




Do thick Scots folk get their own, special, accent?
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 16 May, 2006 02:37 am
dlowan wrote:
Setanta wrote:
One thing which really peeves me is the radio ads in Canada in which the announcer has a thick Scots accent . . .

(Special for McT . . .)




Do thick Scots folk get their own, special, accent?


Ah, very good. I wondered who would pick up on that. One usually talks of a "broad" Scots accent, but I daresay we have our share of broad people too, what with the deep-fried Mars Bars and all.

Actually there are about six or seven recognisable Scottish regional accents, or eight if you count the one employed by "Scottie", the engineer from Star Trek.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 16 May, 2006 05:57 am
In my experience among 'Mericans, at least, "thick accent" is the commonest expression for someone's whose accent is strong. This gentleman's accent (the one who does the furniture ads of which i was thinking) sounds a good deal like a Norn Iron accent, but i'd otherwise say it was highland, as the lowland Scots folks i've encountered haven't had such strong accents. Of course, i claim no expertise in this.

The man who is arguably the greatest Scot in Canadian history is usually not even recognized by Canadians as a Scot. Tommy Douglas was born in Falkirk, and his father emmigrated to Canada when Tommy was six. Four years later, his father returned to Scotland to fight with his boyhood comrades in the Great War, and Tommy and his mother lived in Glascow until the entire family returned to Canada in 1919. Douglas became a Baptist minister, and, during the Great Depression of North America in the 1930s, became a political activist, and finally, was elected the first socialist government leader in North America when he became the CCF Prime Minister of Saskatchewan in 1944. He is credited with the first universal health care plan (certainly in North America, and possibly in the world). Two years ago, the CBC asked Canadians to vote for the ten greatest Canadians--Tommy Douglas topped the list. At this page, one can listen to Tommy Douglas speak. I'd say, scroll down to the link for his "Mouseland" speech, it is quite entertaining, and probably his most famous speech. In Tommy Douglas, you'll hear just the hint of a Scots accent, such as one can hear in many Canadians. The gentleman to whom i referred, who does the furniture ads, sounds as though he had just gotten off the boat.
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 02:41 am
McTag wrote:
I heard a good one last week and thought "Must post that on the Thread", but I can't remember it now....am writing this in case I can jog my memory...

No, it's gone. I'll come back later. Senior moment.


Heard on the radio last week, and every day...."We've got some interesting items on today's show..."

Since when is a radio programme a SHOW? That's a very overused word, and it's not always appropriate, e.g. here.
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Clary
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 02:44 am
That's a good grumbly peeve, McT, perfect for the drizzle. Incidentally did you see what happened on a BBC 24 SHOW recently? http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi?redirect=st.stm&news=1&bbram=1&bbwm=1&nbram=1&nbwm=1&nol_storyid=4774179
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 02:57 am
Well I don't know about drizzle- dry here at the mo- but the forecast is gales and heavy rain for a couple of days.
At least the cherry blosom season is mostly over. Usually high winds are a problem then, or so it seems to me.
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Clary
 
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Reply Fri 19 May, 2006 04:15 am
Has anyone tried the translations offered by google? Here is the hilarious result of translating from the German Wikipedia!

http://66.249.93.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuriger&prev=/search%3Fq%3DHeuriger%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rls%3DRNWE,RNWE:2004-41,RNWE:en
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 19 May, 2006 04:44 am
Well that's amazing, and hardly recognisable as English is.

Peeve: I really hate this one...heard on the radio just now, on the subject of Ted Turner and philanthropy

"At least he put his money where his mouth is"

Is there any uglier or more infelicitous phrase in our language?
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 12:18 am
And here's another I hate: often heard on the news outlets when there is a report of a tragedy-

"Our hearts go out to....(the victim's families, etc)"

I think its well past time for these hearts to consider staying put, and that we should find another cliche to beat to death.
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Clary
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 04:55 am
I don't personally mind either of those; cliches are cliches and as long as they don't intrude into real literature, I'm easy with them.
Difficult for me to have peeves when staying with Indians whose grasp of English exceeds my own, in a country where I can barely put togethr three words! Embarrassed
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 05:41 am
Here's a genuine question: I'm puzzled

In the Guardian newspaper today, I saw the following:

"Old people didn't used to drive...."

That looks so awkward, yet it is what we say. Is it correct, or should the writed have found another construction?

I think it is incorrect btw.

(But it is correct to say "I used to...", so logic says I'm wrong.)
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 05:47 am
I would avoid it if at all possible:

"In the past, old people did not drive...."

"Old people used not to..."

"Previously, old people were not in the habit of driving..."
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Francis
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 05:54 am
dlowan wrote:
"Previously, old people were not in the habit of driving..."


...one crazy?
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 06:45 am
McTag wrote:
Here's a genuine question: I'm puzzled

In the Guardian newspaper today, I saw the following:

"Old people didn't used to drive...."

That looks so awkward, yet it is what we say. Is it correct, or should the writed have found another construction?

I think it is incorrect btw.

(But it is correct to say "I used to...", so logic says I'm wrong.)


er...for "the writed" read "the writer", of course.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 06:49 am
Francis wrote:
dlowan wrote:
"Previously, old people were not in the habit of driving..."


...one crazy?



Ce n'est pas la province seulement du vieux pour conduire un fou.
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Clary
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 06:53 am
It is grammatically correct to put They usedn't (or used not) to or They didn't USE to
However this practice looks rather outdated now.
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