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@cicerone imposter,

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The 6,000 year old earth is one of the major weaknesses of the bible.

Not in the least. It's a major weakness of your naive line of uneducated splatter.

And how pathetic is "bible"?

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@spendius,

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Not in the least. It's a major weakness of your naive line of uneducated splatter.

Typical; calling ill-conceived names, in this case uneducated splatter, without explaining what you mean. Quit while you are behind; you only make yourself look more ignorant with ever post.

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@spendius,

What a heartless and intellectually bankrupt thing to say.

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@cicerone imposter,

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The 6,000 year old earth is one of the major weaknesses of the bible. The other is the world flood that never occurred. Contained in the bible are too many errors, omissions, and contradictions. How any 'sane' person can reconcile all those 'mistakes' and continue to give their heart and soul to a 2000 year old book is a huge mistake. How can any one book preach, "thou shalt not kill/murder," than direct its adherents to kill their own family members because they do not believe in their Jesus? He's supposed to be a "savior," not a tyrant. Also, I've not seen any christian follow the bible to stone them to death. They've already sinned, and will all go to hell with the rest of us for not following his command!

The Bible has come about face such that the true martyrs and super champions of truth are those who repel its idiocy...

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@RexRed,

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What a heartless and intellectually bankrupt thing to say.

Keep banging on, like a kid banging on a pan, about a 6,000 year old earth is both of those things and more besides.

Who do you envisage is being addressed? Such things are nothing to do with the Bible.

Why do you two seek to persuade others not to read the Bible. Is it so that they will become like you?

Can't they make their own minds up about it without your baby guidance repeated for decades? Evolution is in the Bible. So is the idea that God is a construction of man's imagination.

Why don't you give Dante a good ******* over? Or Bosch? Or Milton.

You just want to get everybody down into the hole you're in. That's heartless. And intellectual bankruptcy goes no further that whining on behalf of your dicks.

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@spendius,

Hey, dummy, nobody is preventing anyone from reading anything they wish.
The world is full/fool of 'them.'

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

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What a heartless and intellectually bankrupt thing to say.

Keep banging on, like a kid banging on a pan, about a 6,000 year old earth is both of those things and more besides.

Who do you envisage is being addressed? Such things are nothing to do with the Bible.

Why do you two seek to persuade others not to read the Bible. Is it so that they will become like you?

Can't they make their own minds up about it without your baby guidance repeated for decades? Evolution is in the Bible. So is the idea that God is a construction of man's imagination.

Why don't you give Dante a good ******* over? Or Bosch? Or Milton.

You just want to get everybody down into the hole you're in. That's heartless. And intellectual bankruptcy goes no further that whining on behalf of your dicks.

I happen to be ordained clergy and do you even know why Christians claim the earth is 6000 years old? Answer that question without looking it up on Google "if you are so educated".

You think you can insult my knowledge of scripture I dare you to try. I double dare you.

I learned my knowledge of scripture by STUDYING the Bible every day for over 15 years. While you were hating on women at the local pub I was studying this book of lies...

No one knows the lies of this book better than one who has studied it.

Notice I did not say I merely read the Bible but I studied it.

So try and tell me what it says and means and you will quickly learn who the "uneducated one" is.

For some reason I thought by learning the Bible it would make me smart. Maybe it was the lofty Old English language translations that drew me in.

It did not make me smart, in fact it made me quite dumb, but it made me wise to the foolish lies contained therein.

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1 John 3:3 Behold, what manner of love [racism] the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God:

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

The 6,000 year old earth is one of the major weaknesses of the bible.

No. It is a major straw man perpetrated by those who fail to understand the creative days were not 24 hours long. In fact, if you ever cared to read it, Genesis 2:4 lumps the first six into one. Also, if you care to look, tell me where the Bible says the seventh day has ended.

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I have always thought that the MAJOR weakness in the credibility of the Bible was the passage at Leviticus 25:44ff.

"Slaves, male and female, you may indeed possess, provided you BUY them from among the neighboring nations. You may also BUY them from among the aliens who reside with you and from their children who are born and reared in your land. Such slaves YOU MAY OWN AS CHATTELS, and leave to your sons as their hereditary property, MAKING THEM PERPETUAL SLAVES. But you shall not lord it harshly over any of the Israelites, your kinsmen."

This was the god of the Bible speaking to the Hebrews during their trek out of supposed slavery in Egypt!

C'mon!

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@neologist,

Not 24 hours long, but god created the heavens and the earth, and he said, let there be light, and that was called day and night.

You may challenge god all you want.

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God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning--the first day.

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@cicerone imposter,

Uh, CI, the Hebrew word yom had more that one meaning, just as our word day can mean a 24 hour period, a daylight period, or an indefinite time, as in the expression "my grandfather's day". Look again at Genesis 2:4 and see how it lumps the first six days into one, thereby making it obvious that an indefinite time was meant.

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@cicerone imposter,

Well--there was a first day. It was the first day of an epoch which thought in terms of first days.

Evolution could not have been thought up without such an epoch having come first. The idea of there having been a first day is necessary for any evolutionary ideas to follow. You can't expect the pioneers of evolution to get the logistics laid out so that gumps like you could understand.

Show us an alternative route to evolutionary ideas.

It's like you calling Sir Frank Whittle an idiot and beset with errors, omissions and contradictions because he didn't deliver a Rolls Royce Trent jet engine. You silly moocow.

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@spendius,

Or blackguarding Thomas Edison because his snaps were a bit fuzzy, his movies too jerky and his bulbs too dim.

You big fat ego is in the way of your comprehension ci.

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@spendius,

spendi, First of all, you're not making any sense. Secondly, all I ask is that you challenge what I say with some credible source - other than your cockamamie opinions.

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@neologist,

neologist wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:
The 6,000 year old earth is one of the major weaknesses of the bible.
No. It is a major straw man perpetrated by those who fail to understand the creative days were not 24 hours long. In fact, if you ever cared to read it, Genesis 2:4 lumps the first six into one. Also, if you care to look, tell me where the Bible says the seventh day has ended.

I believe you are incorrect Neo
Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

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The seventh day ended in the evening night at sundown...

That is unless a fundamentalist believer is embarrassed by the the 6000 years thing and needs to rationalize and wrangle the scriptures to save the Bible's errant scientific face and make them fit with science and simple basic logic...

The Bible says Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then died.

I know, sounds incredible. Smile

How could Adam have even lived a biblical year if the seventh day is still going on?

Faulty, not thought through logic...

The Gospel of Luke names each person in the genealogy of Jesus all the way back to Adam. I believe roughly 32 generations...

The old testament records the lifespan "in years" of each of these persons. There are no breaks in Old or New Testament genealogy records. In other words they line up perfectly.

When one adds these sums of fathers lifespans up, the amount comes to around 4000 years.

Add also the time since Jesus' death (2000 years) and you get 6000 years...

How can we have even a year if the 7th day is still not over?

Psalms
For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

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This verse must be a figure of speech because a day and night have already been defined in Genesis and quite a few other places before, this Psalm was written by supposedly David.

The sun is about 4.5 billion years old now. It is about 300 degrees hotter and about 6% greater in radius than when it was first born. It will continue to increase in temperature, luminosity and radius at about the same rate for about another 5 billion years...

A straw man is made of straw and not air...

Your argument does not even hold up against what you call straw.

And this straw man is science...

"And God will hold the sun up in the sky for Joshua too...

Joshua 10:13
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

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Or rather, God would stop the earth's rotation.

Another straw man or errant biblical reckoning of science?

We have devout religious people who doubt science today because of CI's so called "straw man" Neo...

It is not a straw man if it is used by religious people to deny irrefutable scientific evidence of an old earth huh?

Even you, while calling CI's reminder of the 6000 year old earth, are trying to warp time to make this straw man fit some errant time table of biblical events....

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@RexRed,

RexRed wrote:

The Bible says Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then died.

I know, sounds incredible.

How could Adam have even lived a biblical year if the seventh day is still going on?

Faulty, not thought through logic...

The Gospel of Luke names each person in the genealogy of Jesus all the way back to Adam. I believe roughly 32 generations...

The old testament records the lifespan "in years" of each of these persons. There are no breaks in Old or New Testament genealogy records. In other words they line up perfectly.

When one adds these sums of fathers lifespans up, the amount comes to around 4000 years.

Add also the time since Jesus' death (2000 years) and you get 6000 years...

How can we have even a year if the 7th day is still not over?

Sorry to have truncated your post as you seem to have exerted considerable effort on it.

Right you are when you scratch your head and say the 7th day must be about 6000 years old . . . so far.

Well, that it is. Adam died in the day of his sin.

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@neologist,

6,000 years after he was created? LOL

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@cicerone imposter,

Within a day. If you figure 1000 years as a day, or an indeterminate day, he's still dead.

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