Does God Exist?

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Frank Apisa said: The god Jesus worshiped is far from being worthy of worship...which is probably the reason Christians try to distance themnselves from it.

Personally I like God because he's not some limp-wristed politically-correct lefty social worker.
And the last time I looked, Christians certainly weren't trying to distance themselves from God, but atheists and agnostics certainly were; they can run but can't hide..

Marriage is to me apostasy, profanation of the sanctuary of my soul, violation of my manhood, sale of my birthright, shameful surrender, ignominious capitulation, acceptance of defeat. I shall decay like a thing that has served its purpose and is done with; I shall change from a man with a future to a man with a past; I shall see in the greasy eyes of all the other husbands their relief at the arrival of a new prisoner to share their ignominy. The young men will scorn me as one who has sold out: to the young women I, who have always been an enigma and a possibility, shall be merely somebody else's property—and damaged goods at that: a secondhand man at best.

Christians do everything they can to distance themselves from the god of the Bible...the god Jesus worshiped.

Good luck with that.

RexRed said:@RF- Ahh I see, you prefer a firm-wristed jealous tyrant God who sucks the poor dry without the slightest bit of remorse... (cynical)

Frank Apisa said: You run from the god of the Bible, Romeo. You look for reasons to say the edicts of that god no longer apply. Mostly because the edicts and "commands" of that god make Hannibal Lecter seem reasonable and pacific.

God gave humans simple commonsense,....

Frank Apisa wrote:

Christians do everything they can to distance themselves from the god of the Bible...the god Jesus worshiped.

Good luck with that.

Nominal christians, perhaps. Because they are unable to focus on the big picture.

HMM! That goes for the huge majority of unbelievers, They really can't understand the implications of Genesis ch 3.

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Frank Apisa said: You run from the god of the Bible, Romeo. You look for reasons to say the edicts of that god no longer apply. Mostly because the edicts and "commands" of that god make Hannibal Lecter seem reasonable and pacific.

God had to slap ancient heathens around, just like you were prepared to nuke russki cities in your Air Force days..
Then when people became a bit more civilised, he sent Jesus to trash the Old T's harshness!

He's my kind of tough no-nonsense God but if people want to go and find a fairy queen "god" instead, it's none of my business..

Romeo said: God had to slap ancient heathens around, just like you were prepared to nuke russki cities in your Air Force days..
Then when people became a bit more civilised, he sent Jesus to trash the Old T's harshness!
Frank Apisa said: Yeah...the days of ancient Rome were "more civilized!"
C'mon, Romeo...even someone like you can see through that nonsense.

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Romeo said: God had to slap ancient heathens around, just like you were prepared to nuke russki cities in your Air Force days..
Then when people became a bit more civilised, he sent Jesus to trash the Old T's harshness!
Frank Apisa said: Yeah...the days of ancient Rome were "more civilized!"
C'mon, Romeo...even someone like you can see through that nonsense.

Roman governor Pilate found Jesus not guilty-
"I have found in him no grounds for the death penalty" (Luke 23:22)

And there was even an early Christian enclave in Rome itself -
"To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be his holy people,
grace and peace to you from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ" (Romans 1:7)

And of course 300 years later Roman Emperor Constantine became a Christian and made Christianity the state religion, so all in all the Romans were pretty civilised for the time. Maybe atheists and agnostics will follow Rome's example one day and become civilised too..

Frank Apisa said: Run away from the boogy man god of the Old Testament, Romeo. No one will thing the lesser of you. All Christians (except for the ones Neo knows) run from that god too.

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Frank Apisa said: Run away from the boogy man god of the Old Testament, Romeo. No one will thing the lesser of you. All Christians (except for the ones Neo knows) run from that god too.

Every Christian I know can't wait to meet him!
Remember, Christians die laughing..

The primary definition of adore is to"Hold in highest esteem, love, or honor".

You have no idea about what either Mr Apisa and I are capable of adoring.

... to a supernatural creature, the entire existence of whom is without any evidence .

... there appears that much evidence exists which counters such a being's being.