@spendius,
Apisa wrote this on another thread which only has a tenuous connection to this one. There is no difficulty guessing what he was on about.
Quote:...especially in the case when "the existence or non-existence of gods" is the issue.
If God did not exist Apisa would not, could not, write those words. That he did write those words is proof the God exists.
One really does have to wonder why he has the slightest interest in whether God exists or not. He must be concerned about it. He gives proof of that in bucket-loads. Maybe in his youth he pondered whether bogeymen existed and decided that he didn't know one way or the other as he had no evidence on which to decide and not being prepared to guess on a matter of such importance he lay stiff in bed all night alert to a pin dropped a block away. It didn't help despite the boldness of the decision.
I can assure him that if God does not exist he has nothing to worry about. And in that event the Christian teachings on sexual matters can be seen for what they are. They were a system to improve the manners of European ladies so that men would become imbued with the admiration of conquest, and the patience, cunning and tribulations of bringing them off, and thus would conquer the world and bring back from it all manner of spices, scents, pigments, unguents, dress making materials, psychotropic substances, exotic flowers and anything else it was thought might amuse them. It would be very bad taste to mention the difficulties of the voyages because ladies are very compassionate creatures and would be slightly upset to hear about them.
Thus, by a simple deduction, those undermining Christian morality and blasphemously using God to do it, are seeking to return ladies to their pre-Christian condition of being neither use nor ornament except for a couple of minutes twice a day and to keep the joint in order.
And when Mrs Robinson came upon the scene, a part incidentally that Doris Day refused, saying it was "too naive", it looked as if secularism was gaining serious momentum and events since then have not shown it to be slowing its acceleration. Except in Russia.
So "misogyny" is two opposite things depending on what a man thinks is best for women, as a whole. And the popularity among women of bonnet movies and literature in that
genre suggests to me that they know what is best for women. They like being ladies who can make a line of officers swoon simply by a quick flash of an ankle. And that's not easy to do.
And I'm not saying what I think and I can hardly be accused of not being objective. I know what those Jane Austen fanatics in the US would say. It is a lady's privilege to be subjective and a man's burden to have to work with it.
